blotchie video on premiere output to dv cam

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kenox3
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I set up fast to output to dv.
Either from premeire or fast all I get is a flashing partial image with gray blotches flashing on and off. The video is playing through but the signal is intermitant.

JVID
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I've got, and have reported, the same problem. I was told, on another message board, that this is a "rare", but "known" problem that seems to only affect Sony cameras, and that they are "working" on the problem. Is your camera by any chance a Sony? I've got a TRV11.

JWR

kenox3
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I have a sony dcrvx2000.

quote:Originally posted by JVID:
I've got, and have reported, the same problem. I was told, on another message board, that this is a "rare", but "known" problem that seems to only affect Sony cameras, and that they are "working" on the problem. Is your camera by any chance a Sony? I've got a TRV11.

JWR

FAST
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We have never had any reports of this problem here in the UK, so I suspect it only occurs on NTSC systems. I suggest you contact Dazzle's support department in the USA, because they might know a solution to this problem.

FAST UK Technical Support

JVID
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The response I got was from Mark Bailey, Dazzle Multimedia Inc, markb@dazzle.com.
He was the person who termed the problem "rare" and "known". He also stated that "I'm working closely with the European team on this one."
There's no possibility that this could be a run-around...is there?

kenox3
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I am using sony.
And I will contact dazzle soon...

quote:Originally posted by kenox3:
I have a sony dcrvx2000.

Divervid1
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I guess I have become a member of the "rare and known". I have a TRV720 and it does what you describe. Please post if anyone hears what the solution is. I emailed Dazzle 2 days ago and haven't received a reply yet.

Divervid1
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Has anyone been able to have this problem resolved or at least an explanation for its occurance?

JVID
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I've received nothing beyond the reply cited above. It sure is a PITA having to output to VHS and then copy to DV.

brandon_h1
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Condsider me in the "rare and known" category too. I reported this months ago & have yet to hear anything. Using a TVR-120 hear. Also note that I own 2 of these cameras and both do the same thing. Common Dazzle!! we are waiting... that pinnacle DV500+ is looking better each day.

BTH

bondorowsky
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I've been using a Sony TRV900, and it works flawlessly.

quote:Originally posted by brandon_h1:
Condsider me in the "rare and known" category too. I reported this months ago & have yet to hear anything. Using a TVR-120 hear. Also note that I own 2 of these cameras and both do the same thing. Common Dazzle!! we are waiting... that pinnacle DV500+ is looking better each day.

BTH

JVID
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Well, then, it appears to apply only to SOME Sonys: TRV11, DCRVX2000, TRV720, TRV120, but not TRV900. Maybe this is a clue for Dazzle.

dsimon
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I got an email response from Dazzle US and this is a known problem with Sony DV camcorders. They are working with Europe and Sony to fix it. This is a driver problem with the card. They said the card works fine as a firewire card with the TI drivers (I assume this means the default windows drivers). I suspect and am waiting for confirmation that if you uninstalled the drivers from dazzle and reinstalled with the default windows drivers then you could capture and output dv directly from Adobe without Dazzle being involved. I am waiting to hear more.

JVID
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Thanks for the update. You've heard more from them than I have. If it's true that the default TI driver works with the card, and with Premiere, then it's possible that the second firewire connector on the card can be used for a firewire HD. This is not possible (I've been told by Dazzle) with the FAST drivers.

markb1439
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Here's some more info on the "gray blocks" problem:

-- It's not unique to DV.now. I've found hundreds of messages about it in various newsgroups and forums for several software programs (not involving DV.now products).

-- It does seem limited to Sony camcorders (though the 900 does not seem to have this problem).

-- It is widely reported by users of Orange Micro and Western Digital FireWire cards (which I believe are the exact same hardware sold under different brands). A patch from Microsoft fixed it for some of those users, but didn't work for me in my testing.

-- Many people report that causes include resource conflicts (i.e., shared IRQ's) and general throughput problems (i.e., DMA issues). In our case, it does seem to be a combination of our driver and the Sony camcorders not playing nice together. However, all of this other information is helping us find the cause.

I'll keep you posted.

Mark Bailey, Product Manager
Dazzle Multimedia (USA)

markb1439
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More info:

In testing, the gray blocks only appeared when output was set to "Both Outputs." When set to DV or analog out only, the problem did not exist. If you are experiencing this issue, can you let us know if this is true for you too?

Of course, we know that it needs to work in "Both Outputs" mode, but this piece of information could serve as a temporary workaround until a full fix is available (which I am confident will be soon).

Mark

JVID
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Mark,

FWIW, my results do not agree. I have a TRV11, and when I'm set to "Analog" only, I get just the normal LCD blue screen - I suppose that's because there's no firewire output. When set either to DV or "Both", I get the gray "blotchies".

markb1439
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Ah, yes...I shouldn't have included analog in the category that doesn't get the problem, because of course it won't happen if no signal is going to the DV device.

I'm sorry that it happens for you on the other two settings though.

Arnau
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I'm new to this forum. I'm not sure if we are speaking about the same thing. I have a Sony TRV67E and everything seems to jump and blink etc. when I try to work. My output was on digital, but I changed it to both and now it seems as if this problem has been solved. My cursor has stopped blinking and the picture has stopped jumping.

Arnau
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I'm new to this forum. I'm not sure if we are speaking about the same thing. I have a Sony TRV67E and everything seems to jump and blink etc. when I try to work. My output was on digital, but I changed it to both and now it seems as if this problem has been solved. My cursor has stopped blinking and the picture has stopped jumping.

JVID
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Arnau (& Arnau) -
Are you talking about jumping and blinking on the timeline and on your PC monitor? We are talking here about the blinking gray blocks that appear on the LCD screen of the camera. However, if you're not seeing this, then maybe the TRV67E is one of the unaffected Sonys.

JVID
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I would surely hate to see this thread fall off the board with no resolution. Dazzle - has there been any progress toward a fix for this problem? Anything that might appear in an upcoming version of FF?
Thanks

markb1439
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Yes, encouraging progress has been made! I have personally just tested a registry tweak for Windows 2000 which eliminated the problem for me on my Sony DCR-TRV320 (NTSC).

We are testing further, especially since we have to make absolutely sure it's right before we go and mess about with people's registries.

BTW, the tweak was provided to me by Dazzle Europe, who deserve a great deal of credit for getting to the bottom of this.

The goal is to finish testing and then incorporate the fix into the official 1.6 release. I am very happy about what I've seen personally.

Mark Bailey
Product Manager, SCM Microsystems/Dazzle
USA

JVID
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Bravo, Mark!
For some of us who are able to output to VHS and copy to DV, this is not a "killer" problem, but resolving the issue will make the process a whole lot easier. Thanks for keeping on top of this.

JVID
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I've installed the latest 1.6 release from the Dazzle-Europe site. I didn't expect it to fix the "blotchie" problem (and it didn't), but it's changed the symptoms. Now, with "DV" or "DV and Analog" selected, instead of blinking gray squares overlaying the video output, there may be just one flash of squares, then the LCD screen is solid gray and no video is output at all. Are we getting closer or farther away? :)
JR

haverid
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I too am experiencing the 'flash of video and then grey lcd' problem you mention, this is happening with a TRV900 which I thought was one of the unnafected cameras.

I hope a solution will be posted soon, it is very frustrating.

Ian

haverid
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Bad News - Dazzle supplied me with the registry tweak (NOT Included in 1.6) and it does not resolve the problem. It does change it slightly - I now get mostly picture with grey blocks instead fo the grey screen, however it is still not useable.

I am still hoping Dazzle can fix this issue soon, I NEED to output DV via firewire.

Ian

JVID
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Maybe someday (sigh).
I haven't gotten the registry tweaks, but with 1.5 I had the flashing gray blocks over the picture. With the 1.6 release, I have part of the picture flash once, then the whole LCD is gray. I've just gotten and installed the 1.7 beta and there's no change from 1.6 (although the audio mixer is now useable in AP6 - small hooray :).
JR

sunydi
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What tweaks are you taliking about? can you share that with me?

I have a Sony TRV17. It worked fine with R1.5+update. It also worked with R1.6beta (224) with some framedrops during capture! when I upgraded to R1.7b it stopped working and I got those flashes on the LCD. Now I am back to the premitive R1.5

cezarym
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Hi All,
enumerate me please, who have blotche problem under 98 or 98SE, in what color mode: NTSC, PAL or both and full model of DV camcorder, OK?
Bondrowsky, hi, is Your camera TRV900 or TRV900E? What OS are You using and what system - PAL or NTSC?
Thanks All for reply, it will be very helpful for me.
Czarek.

bondorowsky
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I have a TRV900, NTSC, however, I suddenly started having this problem. I don't know what I did to make it start.

My System:
Abit VP-6 Mobo w/ 2x - PIII 1 GHZ Proc.
512MB Ram
Win2000 Pro
2 Maxtor DiamondmaxPlus 60GB in Raid 0 UDMA 5
1 WD 40GB UDMA5
1 WD 27GB UDMA4
Soundblaster 5.1 Live
Matrox G400Max

haverid
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I have TRV900
Windows 2000, SP2
Abit VP6 with dual P3/866
ATI Radeon DDR
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
1 Maxtor 60 Gb drive for OS & Apps
2 X Maxtor 80Gb drives in Raid for Vid Cap
1 3Com 3C905 NIC

Problem only occurs with DVNowAV setup for NTSC, If I uninstall and install DVNow for PAL I can capture from a PAL source and output via Firewire with no problems. Uninstall and reinstall for NTSC, capture NTSC source and output to camera via firewire shows all grey screen, if the PD150 reg tweak is applied I get mostly picture with flashing grey blocks in fire wire output.

Let me know if I can give any further help.

Ian

dpalomaki
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Problems that suddently appear after a period of working find imples a change to the system. Give that camcorders usually do not reporgm themselves, it probably is simething onthe PC. Perhaps new software installed that is running somewhere in the background or that changed a configuration setting (Windows progarms are notorious for that).

snkhan
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I have B L O T C H I E problem with :
DV.now.AV
Premiere
FF 1.6
Sony TRV-230
Win 98SE
Tried output to 'Digital'; 'Digital' and 'Analog'..........same result. Hope someone can provide fix soon!

JVID
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haverid,

What is the "PD150 reg tweak" and where can I get it. Is this the w2k registry change that some Dazzle people have referred to? Is it (if necessary) reversible?

JR

jabbott7
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I have the same (or similar) problem with a TRV900 and DV.Now/AV with 1.7 beta drivers. I seem to be able to capture with firewire just fine but exporting back to the camera shows a mostly grey screen with flashing blocks of video. I have

P4 1.8 GHz 512MB RAM 7200RPM DMA drives
Windows XP Pro with all patches
Latest drivers for everything

jabbott7
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After reading through the messages here I tried the output settings of both and digital--results were the same. If using the default Windows drivers is a definite solution then I'd be glad to do that for now. I don't mind losing the FAST.forward application but I do still need to be able to read .dif files I've already created and I'd like to still be able to use the FAST codec. Can I use the codec without using the board drivers?

GeorgeBoole
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Thanks All for reply.

Just one else question to All:
- are You All absolutely sure, that iLink (FireWire) input (INPUT!) in Your camcorders is activated?
Sorry again for my English, I hope You undersrand.
P.S. In PAL our converter works! Ichaaaa! Hurray!
Now: NTSC (i po ptokach).
Regards, GB.

snkhan
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On my Sony TRV-230 I can see the blotchie output on the LCD. I do not see any switch to set Firewire input?

Thanks
SK

PS: I e-mailed Microtech-Dazzle about 2 weeks ago. They replied with a generic email response which had NO relevance to my/our problem as documented in this thread. I think they have a lousy Tech Support service and I would advise anybody considering buying a Dazzle product to really think twice.

jabbott7
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I'm fairly sure that there's no way to disable any of the jacks on these consumer Sony cameras--at least not on the ones I've owned. They're all auto-detected. Besides, if it were disabled then I wouldn't expect to see ANY video, blinking or not.

I tried removing just the FAST IEEE1394 driver, per a previous post, so I could export with the default TI drivers. I deleted it through the Device Manager and Windows immediately detected the device on its own, making me temporarily optimistic. However, even though I had left the FAST 7146 and C-Cube drivers in place, Premier could no longer recognize .dif files, so this was not a solution for me. There doesn't seem to be an obvious way to use the TI IEEE1394 drivers with the FAST CODEC.

dpalomaki
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I could get splotchie (small rectangles) in the video exporting to a Sony DHR-1000 with a project. The solution for me was to turn OFF analog output and windows sound card when exporting DV to the Sony.

GeorgeBoole
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Snkhan, there is no switch to activate DV input. It is camcorder's BIOS issue, which may be perform via Lanc with special hard- and software.
Contact with authorized service and ask about it:
'Is the DV input active in my camcorder?'.
Be careful. Sometimes, they want to get money for activation of input what is active... (to fleece...)! My English :-(

snkhan
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what is best way to turn-off the windows sound card as has been suggested by some? I will give it a shot to see if I can get rid of the BLOTCHIES
SK

dsimon
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I believe that if you uninstall the Fast DV firewire card and then reinstall with the default windows drivers you can then use the card as a conventional firewire card and then capture video straight from Premiere without the Dazzle part of the project. You should then be able to output to DV and plug in a firewire hard drive or other accessories as desired. I have not tried this however

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GeorgeBoole
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What??? Good. :)

snkhan
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What?......GOOD GOD Uninstall & reinstall?

JVID
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snkhan -

If all you want to do is turn off the windows sound, you just need to select Projects->General->Advanced, in Premiere, and select the audio tab. Just uncheck the "windows sound" box and "OK". I don't think that this has anything to do with the "blotchie" stuff, though, but it might help any A/V desync problems (not for me, though). The same setting is in one of the FF settings also, but it doesn't seem to remember the setting from one usage to another.

As far as using the Dazzle card with the default MS 1394 drivers, though, that's something I'm definitely going to try.
JR

snkhan
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Today Dazzle Support suggested re-installing with 1.7 Beta driver.....has anyone been successful in resolving 'blotchies' with the new driver?
SK

JVID
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Not me. 1.5, 1.6, 1.7b - all the same.
The first, second and third suggestions from Tech Support are usually "reinstall", "reinstall", and "reinstall".
JR

jabbott7
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I've installed and re-installed the 1.7 drivers with no effect. I also spent a lot of time re-arranging cards in my system to ensure that the BIOS showed the DV.Now AV PCI slot as having an unshared IRQ and Windows also saw the board's drivers with unique IRQs (probably why disabling sound worked for another poster). Alas, no effect. I've sent e-mails to customer support with, so far, the same response as others have reported.

snkhan
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jabbott7 & JVID

Thanks for the input.....I am not going to waste my time on a Beta driver thats not going to fix the problem.

JVID
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Well, I guess I'll extend this humongous thread by one more message.
My latest response from Dazzle concerning these problems advised me on how to deal with "dropped frames" when recording to DV (just what I needed to know).
So - I've devised my own fix (may be drastic for some). I've thrown out FF and its drivers, and I now load the standard TI IEEE 1394 driver (after re-installing AP6), which appears to work fine with the DV part of the Dazzle board and firewire to the camera. No blotchies to the camera, no A/V desync on output.
I really did like the scan and capture functions of FF, but I've replaced it with a $33US program called Scenalyzer (http://www.scenalyzer.com/main.html), which will scan, with clip detection, a 60min DV tape in 5 minutes, and then allow a selective capture. Good luck.
JR

snkhan
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JVID....thanks for the advice. Though I had one question.....does your setup allow for Analog input?

PS: I want the threadcount to hit 72...I heard that's the magic number to get the issue resolved by Dazzle

JVID
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The setup doesn't allow for direct analog input. However, if your camera has an analog to DV connector (mine does) you can just copy an analog tape to DV using the camera alone, and then firewire from the camera to the PC.
JR

Nawroth
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I updated my FF with the latest files from Dazzle, now I CAN'T get ANY video out of the digital port to my recorder. I am using a Panasonic DV-1000 and when I select either Digital output or both Analog and Digital nothing comes out of the Digital port. The monitor that is connected to the output of the Panasonic just does a quick flicker and that's all. The Analog port works fine. Also the preview screen on the computer turns green when I have Digital only. I guess I have to go back to the old version of FF.

jabbott7
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JVID, were you using the FAST DV codec before switching to the TI drivers? I assume that without FAST you'd have to use Microsoft's DV codec. I accidently setup a Premier project with Microsoft's codec once and noticed that rendering was taking 3 to 5 times longer (something that took 2 mins with FAST now took 15). I've also read on other boards that the FAST codec offers better quality. What is your experience with switching to the TI drivers?

JVID
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In the choice of codecs, I tried the MS AVI and MS DV AVI. After switching to the TI driver, my experience is now mixed. Still using the FAST board, I can output to the camera and use the DV->AV plug to feed a VCR and TV. The output looks fine until I get just a flash of gray blocks, maybe for a couple of frames, then the video is OK for another minute or so and then the flash repeats. Just for a trial, I replaced the FAST board with an Adaptec 3-port firewire board, and see the same "flash" as above.
An earlier message in the thread from a Dazzle rep implied that this is a joint Dazzle/Sony problem, and I wonder if I'm now seeing the Sony part of it. Very discouraging. I emailed Sony support with the problem and got back a nice lecture on connecting cameras to PCs. I've asked them to please address my problem. Maybe the next thing is a trip to a Sony service center. I dunno.
JR

snkhan
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What a shame....Dazzle / Sony combo!

I spent a bundle on DV.now.AV + Sony Digital8 camera + dedicated 40 gig SCSI hard-drive to archive my old VHS tapes.......

jabbott7
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With my older camera I made some video of my LCD screen for tech support. I thought I'd stick the link to that file here and we can be sure that we're all talking about the same thing: http://webott.com/blocky.wmv

snkhan
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YES....that's the problem on my Sony LCD screen!

JVID
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Yes - that's basically what I see, too. Maybe with a bit more video and less gray. This was with FF1.5. With FF1.6, I saw just a solid gray LCD. Same with FF1.7b.

With FF gone, and using a firewire card, I see good video for a while, and then some gray, and then good video again for a while. I think my problem is down to the camera now.
JR

BrutalPlanet
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I have had the Dazzle DV.now AV for almost 6 months now and it has been working great with my SONY DCR-PC1 camera. However, when I uppgraded to Windows XP professional, I got the blotchies too! I dunno if Win XP has anything to do with it? Anybody else's system go out the window when you installed windows xp?

snkhan
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Welcome to the 'Blotchies' club!

BrutalPlanet
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Thanks.
Here's something that might be of help to someone. I was snooping around in my computer yesterday and I saw that when you install new Fast drivers, the prog. doesn't uninstall the previous version. Go check and make sure that the previous version was uninstalled. Like I said, maybe it'll work on some computers... Sadly, it didn't change on mine

snkhan
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Unfortunately it started with my first installation.....their were no video capture devices prior to Dazzle.

bondorowsky
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is there ever going to be a solution for this problem? I am getting very frustrated!!

sandy

BrutalPlanet
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Hello everybody! I have some ok news for Adobe Premiere 6 users. There is a patch on Adobe's website that says that it'll fix some of the SONY problems. Hopefully some of you in here will get it to work.

Good Luck!

JVID
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Can you supply a pointer or URL to this patch? I couldn't find anything similar on Adobe's download page. This isn't the 6.01 update is it?
JR

Cazimir
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Hi, sorry for my english.

I have the "blotchie" problem with my sony DSR-PD100AP in PAL format with the 1.5 version of FF.
With the latest 1.6 (build 240) PAL-BG version finally work very fine, but i have changed my PC, before don't work.

before (don't work):

W2000 pro
asutek P3C-D
Dual PIII /933
512 Mo RD-RAM
Adaptec 3200S (Dual channel SCSI 160Mo/s)
2 x 9Go HD Quantum 10KII (striping)Os/soft
2 x 18Go HD Quantum 10KII (striping)Data
2 x 73Go HD Quantum 10KII (striping) Vid Cap
SB Live Platinium
DV.NOW AV
Video Quadro II Pro chipset
3Com NIC

Now (work fine):

W2000 pro
TYAN motherboard
Dual P4 XEON 1.7 Ghz
1 Go RD-RAM
Adaptec 3200S (Dual channel SCSI 160Mo/s)
2 x 9Go HD Quantum 10KII (striping)Os/soft
2 x 18Go HD Quantum 10KII (striping)Data
2 x 73Go HD Quantum 10KII (striping) Vid Cap
SB Live Platinium
DV.NOW AV
Video Quadro II Pro chipset
Intel NIC (on motherboard)

I repeat it work fine but before don't in PAL format.

[This message has been edited by Cazimir (edited 18 December 2001).]

BrutalPlanet
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This is a response to JVID's question. Forst of all I'm sorry that I haven't been able to reply to you sooner. Finals, y know how it is. And yes I think it is the Premiere 6.01 uppgrade. Sorry. I really hope that someone will fix this problem soon!

BrutalPlanet

haverid
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I Fixed it! - On my system anyway
Here is what I did.

Uninstall the DVNowAV software (Not Premiere) and then completely delete all Dazzle/Fast files from my system manually.

Reboot

Install DVNowAV 1.7_0252b Beta software from the Dazzle Europ site.

Reboot

Try FastForward/Premier - Gray blocks still present so I added the following registry key that someone at Dazzle/Fast gave me a long time ago (Didn't help with previous installs)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Fast1394\Params]
"Cycles2Sub_IT_NTSC"=dword:0000000c

Reboot

Output still had a few gray blocks but not as bad, so I tried increasing the dword value by 1 each time and rebooting (You have to reboot as it seems the 1394 driver only reads this value at boot time)
on my second try with the value set to 0000000e everything worked perfectly - perfect video and sound out to my TRV900

This is on an Athlon XP1900, Soyo Dragon+ system running Windows XP Pro - give it a try it might work for you.

Good Luck,
Ian

bondorowsky
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quote:Originally posted by haverid:
I Fixed it! - On my system anyway
Here is what I did.

Uninstall the DVNowAV software (Not Premiere) and then completely delete all Dazzle/Fast files from my system manually.

Reboot

Install DVNowAV 1.7_0252b Beta software from the Dazzle Europ site.

Reboot

Try FastForward/Premier - Gray blocks still present so I added the following registry key that someone at Dazzle/Fast gave me a long time ago (Didn't help with previous installs)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Fast1394\Params]
"Cycles2Sub_IT_NTSC"=dword:0000000c

Reboot

Output still had a few gray blocks but not as bad, so I tried increasing the dword value by 1 each time and rebooting (You have to reboot as it seems the 1394 driver only reads this value at boot time)
on my second try with the value set to 0000000e everything worked perfectly - perfect video and sound out to my TRV900

This is on an Athlon XP1900, Soyo Dragon+ system running Windows XP Pro - give it a try it might work for you.

Good Luck,
Ian

bondorowsky
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YEAH YEAH HIP HIP HOORAY!!

thank you!

haverid
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You're welcome at least two of us know have a working produc - I wonder if Dazzle/Fast monitor this - It would be a good thing for them to add to their knowledge base if this fix works for more of us.

Ian