BMX Tricks

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Nytram1309
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Hi all

The last submission for now ... a different style altogether ... made with a student with whom I am working ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ8mBKSmxbU

All shot as usual with 1 camera, the Panasonic Lumix FZ18 ... original music created in GarageBand ... edited using FCE.

Comments will be much appreciated

Thanks in advance

Martyn

Bob Aldis
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I think you are a spy infiltrating our forums to convert us all to Lumix FZ18s ;)

Bob Aldis

Nytram1309
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:)
Bob Aldis wrote:
I think you are a spy infiltrating our forums to convert us all to Lumix FZ18s ;)

Well, I do have to say, I'm very happy with what I can get out of the Lumix!

Thanks for watching!

Martyn

Maxwell
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Hi Martyn. Looking at your video from a person who has no interest but has interest how you have put it over.
If it is just a exercise its o.k. But to capture the spirit of getting us interested you need to develop a theme of promoting the skills of the bike.
More close up structure of the bike and less of the person riding. You got some great air shoots but the video dont look polished with the music.
Please do not take any offense about my comments.The music and video just dont match.

Nytram1309
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Maxwell wrote:
Hi Martyn. Looking at your video from a person who has no interest but has interest how you have put it over.
If it is just a exercise its o.k. But to capture the spirit of getting us interested you need to develop a theme of promoting the skills of the bike.
More close up structure of the bike and less of the person riding. You got some great air shoots but the video dont look polished with the music.
Please do not take any offense about my comments.The music and video just dont match.

Thanks for the comments. I did want to have more close ups of the bike but it's rather tatty and the lad himself wasn't keen. I think if we wanted to focus more on the skills it would be a lot longer than the 70 seconds or so. Would love to know what kind of music you think would have been better. Thanks for watching anyway ... much appreciated ... Martyn

Maxwell
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Martyn. When making any form of video regardless how big or small. Just ask yourself, WHAT, Why. and what is my aim?.
Too go into details would be long.
Anyway, Music was fine but it did not match the pace of the video.
Find a instrumental track and then make a video and cut or edit the video to the beat. Take a look at some of the "THE SHADOWS" music.
If i was ask to do that with music then i would play around with two tracks by the Shadows. One is "Rise And Fall Of Flingel Bunt" and "Tokyo Guitar". The all start slow and built up to a tempo.
Mind you the music is no good unless you have a idea in your head. WHY and HOW.
Good luck and note this is only my idea how i would tackle the subject.
Also dont use people who are not interested, as a director, cameraman, editor, and the rest you have to do. Lame ducks belong in the pond

Nytram1309
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Lol ... now you suggest copyrighted music!

Thanks for the reply lol ... but I was advised against using copyrighted music by another member!

So what, why and aim? Easy ... just to make a short keepsake for the lad doing the tricks ... he's keen to have the video on his phone to show friends :) And also to to practice our filming and editing skills. We wanted to present each trick from a number of angles, whilst only shooting with one camera.

I've listened to the two copyrighted Shadows tracks you suggested ... curiously they're both similar tempo to the short track we made ourselves ... about 90bpm ... but they're too long for this very short project. And I doubt a young 14 year old lad would have wanted his mates to see him in a video with a 1960s soundtrack :) You mentioned building up to a tempo ... almost all music I know stays at the same tempo throughout ... sure, excitement can build as further instruments enter the fray etc ... but rarely does a piece of music speed up. Our track does in fact build throughout the 70 seconds as you suggest it should, matching the more impressive tricks towards the end.

Cutting to the beat? There's quite a bit of that in there, but I didn't think it was a hard and fast rule. But tap out the beat and you'll see how many of the cuts and titles do actually snap to the beat.

Finally, not sure what you meant when you said ... "Also dont use people who are not interested, as a director, cameraman, editor, and the rest you have to do. Lame ducks belong in the pond." I'm a one man, one camera, one laptop band!

Regards Martyn

Maxwell
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Well Martyn, reading your first thread i was not aware that you only did it for your mate. Fair enough. I was under the impression you wanted to broaden your horizon.
The music was only for you to play around. I agree they are to long for what you want.
At this stage you would not understand what i mean by lame duck. Perhaps when at a later stage you advance into a different format of video making regards subjects you would understand.
Sorry to have taken up your time into going more into details. My fault.

Bob Aldis
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I think there is a misunderstanding here? Maxwell, I suggest you look at Martyn's other submissions and read his explanations. I am sure that if he has plans to submit work to the BBC or other organisations then he will change his methods and equipment (but hopefully not throw out the baby with the bathwater).

Bob Aldis

fuddam
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hey, I know BMX and I liked it. :)

didn't find the music a problem. Quite chilled out.

would try to find more unusual angles to play with, if I had the time. Think it's a good attempt, though. Onward!

Nytram1309
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Many thanks

Thanks for the comments ... yes, more unusual angles would have been good ... we ran out of time actually ... and sadly won't be able to do any more filming. But it was an enjoyable exercise for us both ... and I'm now finding my way around the editing software better than before. I'm just trying to learn to make better home movies :)

Maxwell
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Nice to hear you are now trying to make better home movies.
Any ideas what subject you are going to aim for? Or still toying with the idea?.