Boom and radio mic options?

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ChrisBitz
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Hi there,
I'm pricing up some equipment for an amateur video club to buy, to allow its' members to borrow. I've spent the morning ringing round and hearing Pro-suppliers tell me that unless I'm spending £1000, its a waste of time. We're an AMATEUR club, and so if the equipment isnt TOP NOTCH, we'll still manage - I feel it gives the members a chance to get the feel of proper equipment, without spending a fortune buying it themselves.

Radio mics:
I've found two options, the popular Sennheiser EW112P, at £369 (which is a bit on the expensive side) but I'va also found something that I havent heard of, by Gemini? @ £285 with two channels/mics.
cybermarket
Obviously, two mics is a big bonus for recording dialogue between two people...
Does anyone have a comment on this? Has anyone already got one?

Boom Mic kit
I've had a few quotes, but they all seem to be around the £500 mark.. Can anyone suggest an all in kit that might be nearer the budget of £200 - £300?

Thanks for any advice,

Chris.

John Willett at Home
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Chris,

Sorry, but how much are the cameras worth that you want to use the mic. for?

If you are a video club I would expect them to be around the £1,500 mark?

If so, a K6+ME66 is the best option.

Don't forget that a camera will be out of date in 2 years and a microphone in 20 years.

A K6+ME66 and an ew100-ENG G2 system would probably be your best option.

Above your budget, but will last years.

Your budget seems so low I am sure you will very soon regret it if you buy a system within the budget.

Sorry.

Oh - and this is not pro equipment - it is amateur / semi-pro.

John

Billwill
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Originally posted by John Willett at Home:
How much are the cameras worth that you want to use the mic. for?

If you are a video club I would expect them to be around the £1,500 mark?

John

Our video club has members with an assortment of cams from Hi8/vhsc to a couple of 3-chip prosumer models, the average being £500 single chip miniDV models.

I'm the only person in our club with a K6/ME66 mic set- and many of my club collegues have a genuine problem in understanding why I spend over £400 on a mic!!

A guy who both competes and judges internationally uses absolutely basic mics for his voice overs and onboard cam-mics for ambient sound.

His productions don't rely on pin-sharp audiophile critiques- but sound (and look) pretty good after he's mixed them on Premiere.

As to my K6/ME66 mic, some people feel that some cable resistance to sort out the 'hot' output of the mic is essential with some consumer camcorders- with my XM-1 it's unusable without mic attenuation on, then I have to re-boost the sound in Premiere as the recording can be a little weak, rather than over-modulated.

And some say the K6/ME66 is not designed specifically for on-camera use- it's certainly NOT shipped with a bracket to attach it to a camcorder.

But I speak as an AMATEUR filmaker- if I blow my budgets it's only the kids who don't get fed.

Good luck
Billy

Billy Ellwood is on Vimeo http://www.newcastleaca.co.uk at the film club

John Willett at Home
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OK, if the cameras are under £1,000 then an MKE 300-D should do fine.

This will plug directly into an ew 100 pocket system to turn it radio.

And for inexpensive prices talk to LTF.

John

BrianR
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John Willett.
I notice on the clasified section of the general computer video forum. It has a link to e-Bay with a start of £80.
On the net it looks as though lots of US sites sell it for around $160.

Is this unit any good for amature work?
BrianR

John Willett at Home
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Is this unit any good for amature work?
BrianR

Er, what unit?

If you mean the MKE 300 - yes - that's what is was designed for.

But the MKE 300-D is UK only.

John

BrianR
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Sorry John I'm loosing it!
Thought I had pasted the spec into the message.
Here goes again.

Azden WR-Pro
Twin frequency VHF radio mic
Transmitter & receiver in ABS lightweight strong plastic
Powered by 9v batteries
Portable compact transmitter (58mm x 84mm x 21mm) & lapel mic
Lightweight compact on camera receiver (58mm x 84mm x 29mm)

Hope that makes more sense
BrianR

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Originally posted by BrianR:
[qb] Is this unit any good for amature work?
BrianR

Er, what unit?

John Willett at Home
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Originally posted by BrianR:
John Willett.
I notice on the clasified section of the general computer video forum. It has a link to e-Bay with a start of £80.
On the net it looks as though lots of US sites sell it for around $160.

Azden WR-Pro
Twin frequency VHF radio mic
Transmitter & receiver in ABS lightweight strong plastic
Powered by 9v batteries
Portable compact transmitter (58mm x 84mm x 21mm) & lapel mic
Lightweight compact on camera receiver (58mm x 84mm x 29mm)

Is this unit any good for amature work?
BrianR

My advice - Don't

It's VHF which is prone to interference.

It looks like a USA device which is illegal in the UK.

UK Legal VHF frequencies are:- 173.8MHz, 174.1MHz, 174.5MKz, 174.8MHz or 175.0MHz - all these are UK legal without a licence.

Any other VHF frequency is either illegal or requires a licence. Go to JFMG for details.

I would go UHF if at all possible.

John

BrianR
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Thank John,
You have saved me wasting some money.
BrianR

My advice - Don't

It's VHF which is prone to interference.

It looks like a USA device which is illegal in the UK.

UK Legal VHF frequencies are:- 173.8MHz, 174.1MHz, 174.5MKz, 174.8MHz or 175.0MHz - all these are UK legal without a licence.

Any other VHF frequency is either illegal or requires a licence. Go to JFMG for details.

I would go UHF if at all possible.

John [/QB]