Dual processors

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Sam
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Has any body tried out a dual processor AMD board with a DV500?
I know happy people with 1.4 AMD boards and don't really see the benefit in getting a P3 dual board with 2 x 1.0 processors when you can go for 2 x 1.4 or 1.6 AMDs.
Iwill do one and so do Tyan but the latter is still expensive.(But coming down in price).
Ananotherthing! RAM. I want lots of it to speed up Commotion. At the moment I’m thinking of SDRAM. It's cheap and some boards will take 2gigs. But would DDR be better/faster more/ cost effective. i.e. less of it but working at the dual rate.
Apparently Premiere recognises dual processors, Commotion doesn't but as I said big Ram will speed it up.

sam

rmarsdena
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Joined: Sep 21 2001

I too am interested in dual processor AMD options. Particularly with respect to the DV200.

I need a new machine with dual processors and at least 1Gb of RAM for my everyday work (I need to process TIFF files in excess of several 100Mb). If it is compatible with my NLE, Premiere 6, then so much the better.
I understand that many dual AMD boards are designed for server use, and so may be overkill for my needs.

I don't want to be too bleeding edge.

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Scuba
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Joined: Jul 13 2001

I know that Pinnacle have the Tyan Thunder K7 in house for testing ant that it is certified for the targa 3000 card.
from tecnical spec of the mobo it will work.
The Question is whether it have some BUG in Bios that will prevent it from working with spesific card.

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Bomag
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Joined: Aug 15 2000

Card manufactures always blame probles on the BIOS, in truth dodgy drivers are as gulity.

Tyan have a new cut down dual Athlon board (tiger -I think). choice.com (uk bit) have it listed (overdue though!) and is much cheaper than the bells and whistles Thunder (£200ish).

I am waiting until christmas for a larger selection of MoBOs and the cheaper Athlon XP chip (as oposed to the MP version)

Michael Renn
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Joined: Aug 30 2000

In reply to the above, I am in the process of building a twin Athlon system for Video editing using a Canopus Storm SE.
Points to bear in mind are that at the present time of writing, there are only two motherboards which will take the Athlon. They are both by Tyan, the K7 at around £420 and the Tyan Tiger a cut down version which will still set you back about £220. Also remember that you need Athlon MP CPUs which I believe at present are only available in 1.2 and 1.4 speeds. Also you will need to be running W200 unless the new windows XP or whatever will support twin CPUs. No doubt later on there will be other makers producing twin Athlon boards, but unless some one knows differently Tyan are at present the only one.
When I asked about twin Athlon MP CPUs Paul the administrator suggested Max Black of Royston as someone who may be able to help.
Having been in touch with them, they seem to hold stock of everything you will need - and their prices are not so over the top.
Dabs also sell the Athlon 1.2 MP now for about £169 but do not sell any suitable motherboards. If you are interested and can afford it Max Black look to have the answer in their no-bones Athlon system for £740+.
This includes new case (it needs to be wider than average to take the twin motherboard)
Tyan Tiger Motherboard, twin Athlon 1.2 MP CPUs, 256 of PC2100 DDR Ram, and a 460PS which you will need, it also includes all the extra cooling, which again is essential.
Hope this goes some way to telling you what you may be letting yourself in for expence wise.
Mike

Scuba
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Joined: Jul 13 2001

the Thunder and Tiger K7 are basicly the same board.
The diferance is that the Thunder have a On Board Dual U160 SCSI adapter, 2 3Com nic's and basic display card.
This is to make it good for web and aplication servers that dont need to use a special display and often need to sit in U2 raqs.
The tiger is more for the Power user segment and dont have this Stuff on it. The problem is that you will need to buy and add a Nic, SCSI card, Ect.

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Michael Renn
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Joined: Aug 30 2000

Scuba,
Yep I`ve ordered an Adaptect 160 card to go with my 36gig SCSI drive. I`ve also got a 40gig UDMA system disk. Most bits should arrive during next week, I`ll post how its running when its all assembled.
Mike

Scuba
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I am running my No.1 and 3 systems with IDE system drives and SCSI Raid for video.
Untill now they are running Perfect (at least this part dose).

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Michael Renn
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Joined: Aug 30 2000

Hi! one and all,
As promised here is a end of week one account of how the system is fairing.
I purchased a bare-bones system from Max Black, which consisted of the following:-
Palo Alto Case ( really great)
Twin Athlon 1.2MPs
256 of PC2100 DDR Ram
Tyan Tiger motherboard
Ample Cooling
430Watt PSU
to this I added a 40gig Deskstar system hard Drive UDMA100, 2 SCSI drives (1x18 gig for all the Video editing and associated programmes, and 1x38gig for Video capture etc) another 256 of Ram and a Videologic soundcard (I already had 3 Video cards at home from which to choose)
The system is now up and running with a DV Storm card, using both Premier 6 and Storm Edit, and I must say that after my old DC30+ the whole system is a joy to work with. Hope this encourages some of you to take the upgrade path.
Mike

PD
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Hi Guys,

The TYAN Tiger MP (S2460) is absolutely *not* the same product as the excellent TYAN Thunder K7 (S2462).

See my recommendation here: http://www.dvdoctor.net/cgi-bin/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000185.html

You have been warned.

Cheers,

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Paul

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