EX1 settings

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Mick Mearman
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Can someone give me some ideas for the best settings for good pictures
straight out of the camera sort of ENG style, no PP is not bad but a little flat, stnd 1 gamma or cine3 seems to give the most contrast which is what I'm after, I know a lot like to do it in post but I don't unless I have to.
Mick

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Alan Roberts
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Try mine, go to Daniel Browning's site first.

Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them.
Camera settings documents are held by Daniel Browning and at the EBU
My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here.
Also EBU Tech.3335 tells how to test cameras, and R.118 tells how to use the results.

Mick Mearman
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Alan in your settings for matrix does (fv) = film/tv production?
and (u) = up or is it (ui)?
Thanks Mick

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Alan Roberts
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Surely that's explained on the second page>? It usually is.

Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them.
Camera settings documents are held by Daniel Browning and at the EBU
My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here.
Also EBU Tech.3335 tells how to test cameras, and R.118 tells how to use the results.

Mark M
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Mick, Alan's profiles are, AFAIK, designed to be graded in post, which is only right given their target use. Alan, correct me if I'm wrong here.
Since you say you don't want to be grading in post here is a link to some presets that other people (including myself) are using:
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/attachments/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/18832d1279629066-picture-profile-recipes-my-picture-profiles.xls
Try them out and see which you like best.
Mostly I am using 6, since almost all my work is in theatre. For outdoors I like 5 and 1.
HTH
Mark

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Alan Roberts
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Yes, that's largely true. the film settings are designed for post work, buy the video settings could well be ok without (that's what I always aim for in the video settings), worth a try.

Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them.
Camera settings documents are held by Daniel Browning and at the EBU
My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here.
Also EBU Tech.3335 tells how to test cameras, and R.118 tells how to use the results.

Mick Mearman
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Alan on page 2 & 3 it says
v Television production
f Film-look television
up Shooting progressive to match the BBC’s ‘docs’ settings for the DSR 450 without subsequent grading
ui Shooting interlaced to match the BBC’s ‘docs’ settings for the DSR 450 without subsequent grading.

In for example the matrix settings it says 'standard vu', 'film f', then in the settings 0 (fv) does this mean film and Television?
and -6 (u) does that mean up or ui?

Mark thanks I'll try them
Mick

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SimonMW
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Mick, you say you want a more contrasty look (I'm reading you to mean a defined punchy look). Usually I find the master black can be reduced to around -3 for more defined blacks. You might also want to look at the black gamma settings. So far as I can tell Alans video settings are designed for accurate balanced colour and tone, and may well look even flatter than the out of the box settings. Certainly the "BBC" style gamma will (std gamma 4 on the EX).

If I am not grading I usually at least reduce the master black to -3 on Std gamma 3. To be ultra safe you could go to -2, but even at -3 there is a small safety margin before flatlining and crushing detail at absolute 0 black. For a more punchy out of the camera look lowering the black gamma can help. But this can be detrimental if you aren't careful. Really it needs to be set on a situation basis I find.

Alister Chapman used to publish some matrix settings that got rid of the slight colour cast that the EX cameras have out of the box. Not sure where to find it now though. However I do find that using the Hi Sat matrix gives a more punchy look.

colin rowe
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SimonMW wrote:
Alister Chapman used to publish some matrix settings that got rid of the slight colour cast that the EX cameras have out of the box. Not sure where to find it now though. However I do find that using the Hi Sat matrix gives a more punchy look.

http://www.alisterchapman.com/tag/aperture/ Bottom of page.

Colin Rowe

Alan Roberts
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{fv} means film and tv, both needing grading.
{u} means shooting for direct use without grading, interlaced or progressive.

Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them.
Camera settings documents are held by Daniel Browning and at the EBU
My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here.
Also EBU Tech.3335 tells how to test cameras, and R.118 tells how to use the results.

Mick Mearman
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Thanks Alan
Mick

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Erichus
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Here are some picture profiles
http://www.fxsupport.de/pp.html
for the EX1 (and Z5)