Kaandaro Montage No 12

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kaandaro
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This time its a quirky gothic wedding:eek:

Brilliant day, (apart from the other people that do similar things with cameras):mad:

Let me know what you think.

By the way the B&G have already seen it and are over the moon.:D :D

I would do Vimeo with this but i have tried and failed 4 times now during the day and im getting fed up with it freezing

xx

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David L Lewis
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Oh there are some nice shots in there Karen. I like the coming out from behind the bush to reveal the location and the shot moving up the brides dress starting from one tilt to the other thats very good (IMHO) My shots like thart usualy turn out rubish. either the move up the dress is jerky or the tilt from side to side is jerky , so to do both at once is brilliant.

Ok now for the small criticism.

on the IOV wedding video camera craft course we were told that for any shot you should only have movement in one direction. ie you shouldnt have a pan followed by a tilt or a pan down followed by a pan up . I dont know if this is a hard and fast rule perhaps others more experienced would care to comment.

but apart from that I thought it was great.

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kaandaro
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David L Lewis wrote:
Oh there are some nice shots in there Karen. I like the coming out from behind the bush to reveal the location and the shot moving up the brides dress starting from one tilt to the other thats very good (IMHO) My shots like thart usualy turn out rubish. either the move up the dress is jerky or the tilt from side to side is jerky , so to do both at once is brilliant..

WOW :D :D

Thanks David

They wanted the video to have lots of weird shots because of their gothic folloewing, but i do get what you mean

xx

ChrisG
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Different, great, Su liked it but not the little b/w bit, what was that about - rest great (from a non-wedding video person)

kaandaro
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The black and white bit they wanted in.

They are gothic and they wanted it to be a bit dark and brooding looking.

xx

tom hardwick
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Your montage #3 sussed the aspect ratio thing Karen, so what's gone wrong?

kaandaro
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i dont know??

Ive never been able to get it right?

branny
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Far too many zooms Karen. Zooms are fine if you're revealing something on the pull out or focussing onto something going in. You're not. It's just zooming because you don't know what else to do.
Try watching this with no sound! It's a constant run of zooms in and out and dissolves between half finished shots.
If you use zooms/pans/tilts sparingly and leave a nicely framed 2 sec shot after completion, the dissolve, if you have to dissolve between same scene shots, will look so much better.

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Rob James
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I also watched it with no sound and I have to agree with branny. Tracking and dollying and the occasional sideways tilt for gothic effect are fine and so is fast paced cutting/dissolves but continual hosepipe zooming makes me nauseous.

Have you bought that tripod yet?

Rob The picture is only there to keep the sound in sync

kaandaro
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I have 1 tripod and 1 monopod

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Agreed on the zooming issue, watch anything professional - corporate, instructional, other wedding demo's, even TV and you'll rarely see a zoom.

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kaandaro
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makes me different then!!

lol

xx

tom hardwick
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I liked watching your film but I'd really like to go through it at elbow with you. Why the little jerk left in here? Why the pan away that immediately enters a dissolve? Why the auto exposure? Why the pan down then immediate pan up and so on.

The film is a nice one - I just feel that it needs a touch more care in the shooting and that'll make your editing choices so much easier. We all love hand-holding for the freedoms it gives us, but it sure compromises the overall quality of the footage, there's no two ways around that.

tom.

Rob James
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Sorry Karen, grumpy this morning.

I thought I detected some use of monopod but I still feel you could usefully use it and the tripod more. I know weddings are fast moving and difficult but there really is no substitute for at least some carefully framed tripod shots. It's all about contrast. The clever stuff is more effective against some statics.

Rob The picture is only there to keep the sound in sync

kaandaro
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Give me a few more goes to master the art then maybe they will be better.

Over the winter months i am gonna be training myself with my tripod to try to pan and tilt etc with it.

At the moment with a wedding every weekend all over the summer, its been difficullt to do any practicing with other committments, sounds like a dire excuse, but thats all i have.

At the moment for me personally, the tripod is very restrictive, i use them for the ceremony mostly and speeches etc. They take up so much room when you are in a crowd etc.

As I said I will be practicing over the winter months, then next year when i put up some more stuff for review, you will hopefully see a marked improvement, I still say I am better than I was this time last year?

I have 1 more this weekend which I can put up for review, the rest will be private, so I will take this moment to say thanks to everyone who has reviewed my work so far.

xx

David L Lewis
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And thank you Karen for being brave enough to put so much of your work up for review.

I's obvious that you have improved as the year has gone on and I know that others have learnt , me included, from the comments that people have posted.

so thanks once again.

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