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jazzy
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I am a new starter at all of this, and I about to build a new PC on which I hope to edit some simple home movies of the kids etc.
I don,t need anything very flash, I just want to keep my memories nice and safe.
Can anyone tell me what gear I am going to need in the way of graphics and capture cards. Do I need both or is there a graphics card I can buy that will capture video from my JVC GR-DVX707. I note that the camera uses USB to transfer video to PC. I also have some old movies on S-VHS that I would like to burn onto DVD if possible. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jazmine

John Disdle
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Unfortunately your JVC does not have an analogue in. So you will need an analogue to DV converter.
GFX cards with video in may not produce the best quality.
USB is for downloading stills, and not fast enough for video.
If you plan your new PC round a m/board with on board fire wire, you won`t need a DV capture card, but you will need editing software.

There are new analogue/DV cards like the Canopus let`s Edit RT+ at £300 and the PYRO A/V Link £199 see the latest CV magazine. I would seriously consider one of these should my DV500+ suddenly be struck by lightning.

Happy New Year.
John.

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jazzy
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Can I connect my old JVC (S-VHS) to my new JVC (digital) and use it as a capture device?
Then feed it straight through onto my PC?

John Disdle
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A look at the spec. of your JVC tells me it only has analogue (s-vhs) out. The manual will confirm if this is true or not. It should also say if you have to record to tape from the analogue in, or if it is pass through.
My feeling is it`s DV only. You will need a capture card anyway. DV cards are quite cheap and come with software that edit and output to DVD.
If you buy an analogue to DV converter you will still need a DV connection to the PC.

Most DV only cards should be compatible with a PC. If you plan on buying a DV/analogue card from either Matrox, Pinnacle, Canopus or any specific manufacturer, then check their web site for compatible mother boards. This is important.

Happy New Year.

John.

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jazzy
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I,m afraid John that my manual tells me next to nowt about anything thats very useful.
It doesn,t say whether I can put the footage straight through the camera or not.
I have already bought the motherboard for my PC (Asus A7N8X Deluxe) so I will check compatability before I go and buy anything.
I didn,t want to spend a great deal so I was hoping to buy a graphics card with capture facilities built in. Can you recommend any?

John Disdle
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I have the same m/board. It has on board fire wire. A back plate has, I think two sockets. You can use any DV editor, but you won`t get real time playback without a real time card. A fast CPU cuts the waiting though.
All you need is an analogue/Dv converter, but to make a DVD you may as well buy one of the PYRO bundles with software, as a converter will cost between £200 - £300.

I have never used a GFX card with an analogue in/out. There are some about, but not sure of the video resolution, or quality. It should be 720x576. A web search should show something useful. Ati or preferably nVidia.
A separate HDD for capture video is a must. See the F.A.Q section for ideas.

I use the on board audio, and disable the fire wire as I use the DV500. If you use more than one stick of DDR, put them in either slot 1 and 3 or 2 and 3. Not 1 and 2.

Hope this helps.
Regards John.

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jazzy
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The card I intended getting was the Leadtek Winfast A350 TDH "my VIVO" see link below
http://www.leadtek.com/3d_graphic/winfast_a350_tdh_myvivo_1.html

I currently have a 160GB S-ATA hard drive to go in my M/C.
I,d read some where about the memory going into slots 1 and 3, is it something to do with the dual channel feature?
Thats something else thats been puzzling me too, would I be better off with 1 stick of 1024mb PC 2700 with a cas latency of 2 or 2 sticks utilizing the dual channel feature with a cas latency of 2.5 I don,t know a great deal about PC's but I reckon even an expert would be hard pushed to tell the difference in performance.

John Disdle
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At the moment I have no reason to produce DVD`s. so have no experience.

This is some card! Can`t find the price, but looks expensive. Some of these cards are power hungry. 350 or 400w psu recommended.

This will only capture mpeg, the supplied software should edit and produce DVD`s if this all you want the analogue in to do.
You may need a DV editor. XP`s Movie Maker 2?? If you are using XP?

There are posts concerning the installation of SATA drives. Not as simple as IDE. Read the manual for install procedure.

Not sure about one or two sticks of DDR. Depends on the price. Set the mem to SPD in the BIOS. This should take care of the latency. If one stick, put it in slot 2. The manual is not too clear as always, but looks as if slot 1 does not run as duel channel when two sticks are present in slot 1 and 2. I had this set up at first, had a think and moved from slot 2 to 3. Instant boost in performance…

Regards
John.

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jazzy
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Yep, its some card alright. Maybe I,m going way over the top but I,m not too sure what the cheaper alternatives are. By all accounts I don,t need a great graphics card but I do need to be able to capture that analogue video, well I do until my old tapes are done and then I won,t use it anymore.

I,ve also read accounts of people having difficulty with SATA drives but sods law I only read them after I had bought it. And guess what? Its an OEM which means I didn,t even get a manual with it. I should be able to get help from the Maxtor website though.

John Disdle
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A cheaper card is probably ok with basic fire wire editing. That GFX card may be a bit OTT now, but may be useful in the future.

My G550 32meg duel head was around £80. It looks as if I shall be changing that for a £50 nVidia 440, and use a specific driver. Pinnacle think it will cure a problem with the DV500 4.5drivers. I can`t find any proof that more £££`s is better.

Do a search on this board for SATA drives. I have seen some info about the set up.

Maxtor should also be of some help. I have never had a manual, more of a leaflet.
I think there is a read me on the M/board CD.
Good luck. You are at least heading in the right direction.

Regards
John.

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jazzy
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Thanks John you,ve been a big help, hope to talk to you again in the future.