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Nytram1309
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Hi all

Been looking for something like this for a while ... would like some help and constructive comments on my efforts ... but am afraid that I'm out of my depth ... you guys all seem to have the bees knees when it comes to equipment!

Anyway ... I offer this for comment ... http://exposureroom.com/members/Nytram1309.aspx/assets/a264afe2ac11457b967a4017cd91f6d0/

Shot with a Panasonic Lumix FZ18 still camera in video mode ... and all done by myself.

Looking forward to learning a thing or two!

Martyn

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Hi Martyn,
you've shot a tidy little film. I'm not familiar with the Panasonic as a video camera, the image looks fine - slightly compressed but this might be the site rather than your footage. My lower end Panasonics can shoot video but the zoom doesn't work (you zoom the camera and then start filming), I notice a number of your shots have a slow zoom so am I right in thinking this has been achieved at editing stage?
I have two criticisms:-
1. The sound level starts quite well but some shots could do with boosting
2. There is a little bit of overexposure in some shots, however these are usually those shot in strong sunlight and are probably very tricky to get right.
On the positive front - I like your pieces to camera. I am a member of a camcorder club and we struggle on these type of films, some do not use any dialogue, some record a commentary (poorly delivered) and some put on subtitles. I think a lot of us know our place is behind the camera and are not comfortable narrating. I have recently tried delivering narration almost as if acting, complete with expression and this is better, but probably highlights the fact that I should ask a proper actor to narrate. However your pieces to camera come across very well, feel completely natural and add to the production. I'm assuming the live sound is recorded using the camera's onboard mic - if so I'm quite impressed by the quality.
Overall a good little film, my only major criticism is the sound level, something I think you will easily correct in the edit,
John

Nytram1309
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Hi John

Thanks for watching and for the comments. Yes, slight zooms added on laptop as no zooming whilst filming with the FZ18. No control over exposure etc ... it really is just point and shoot. But I love the 28-504mm (35mm equivalent) Leica lens with OIS, the price ( around £200 ), and the fact that clips go to memory card as QuickTime files, making importing to FCE very fast and easy.

I'll pay more attention to volume levels next time ... here the clip sound was often spoiled by wind noise :(

Thanks again for watching

Martyn

H and M Video
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Welcome to the forum, Martyn. Excellent piece of work. Just think what you could do with a HD Cam.

Harry

PC Specialist 3Gz Dual Core, Premiere CS3, Encore CS3, After Effects CS3, Matrox RT.X2, Panasonic HD HS-300, Z1E & PMW-EX3 Cams.
 
Now with a PC Specialist Quad Core i7-3770, 16GB RAM, 180GB SSD, GeForce GTX560 Ti Graphics Card, Blu-Ray & DVD R/W Burners and can't wait to set it up. Now up and running.  What a difference in Blu-Ray footage.

Nytram1309
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H & M Video wrote:
Welcome to the forum, Martyn. Excellent piece of work. Just think what you could do with a HD Cam.

Harry

Yeah lol ... I could get some large files, very long processing times and a headache!

Seriously though ... thanks for the comment! I'll move towards a HD camcorder maybe in the future when processing, storage, and burning blueray discs is easier than at present. Unless of course I'm missing something and people here can persuade me otherwise :)

Thanks again

Martyn

Nytram1309
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Mmmm

160 views and only 2 replies :( Do I read anything into this?

Martyn

Gladders
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Don't read anything too negative, Martyn, it's pretty good as far as I'm concerned. A few minor comments; the introduction to the chair lift gave the impression of a jump cut, I'm not sure if it was but the two views were too similar. There were a couple of times when a clip could have been slightly shorter. But on the whole, pretty good.

Paul

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Thanks Paul

Yeah ... I don't like the jump cut effect at that point ... but those were the clips I had to work with. I didn't appreciate at the time how it might look :( I suppose the real answer would have been to leave one of them out!

Thanks for taking the time to look anyway ... I'm learning!

Martyn

jgould
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Hi Martyn

How do you find panning around with the Panny, mine is very jerky footage

Nytram1309
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I tend to avoid panning altogether! But I know what you mean about the jerky feeling ... I don't know enough about it, but I had put it down to compression problems ... i.e. too much going on from frame to frame, but I may be wrong. I see lots of videos jerk during pans and assumed it's a problem with digital recording? What do you think? Thanks for watching anyway :)

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Problems with apnning

I tend to avoid panning altogether! But I know what you mean about the jerky feeling ... I don't know enough about it, but I had put it down to compression problems ... i.e. too much going on from frame to frame, but I may be wrong. I see lots of videos jerk during pans and assumed it's a problem with digital recording? What do you think? Thanks for watching anyway :)

Mike Pulcinella
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Nytram1309 wrote:
160 views and only 2 replies :( Do I read anything into this?

Martyn

I can see you have skills and potential and this isn't a BAD travelogue but I think it takes much too long to get started. I tried on two separate occasions to watch it and I had to click away.

Granted, I am saturated with online video. I make it and view it all the time and so I may be overly critical in this one area but my feeling is that for these kinds of short vids we need to jump right into it.

A quick preview of the railway ride at the beginning might have helped us get through all the introductory stuff but this was too slow moving for my taste.

Sorry to be harsh but I thought it needed to be said.

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Sure Mike ... comments appreciated. I suppose it can depend on your target audience. I make my videos for friends and family really ... and they are happy/want to see my cabin and the area a bit ... but I agree, for public consumption the beginning would be better shorter.

We keep learning .... thanks for watching ... Martyn

Mike Pulcinella
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Nytram1309 wrote:
Sure Mike ... comments appreciated. I suppose it can depend on your target audience. I make my videos for friends and family really ... and they are happy/want to see my cabin and the area a bit ... but I agree, for public consumption the beginning would be better shorter.

We keep learning .... thanks for watching ... Martyn

I think it would be just a matter of a few editing changes for this piece. Instead of telling the story linearly, mix it up a bit. That's my thought.

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Martyn

What a delightful and highly competent film! It makes me want to go to Zakopane! Very impressed with the quality of the audio, given the nature of the camera and your actual camerawork is particularly impressive, as much of it must have been via remote control of some sort. Lovely music too.

I wouldn't be worried about the low number of comments - this section seems to be habitually quiet. In all faith, your work is so good there may not be too much to be said!

I very much look forward to seeing more of your stuff.

Best
Dominic

Paul W Miley
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"160 views and only 2 replies Do I read anything into this?"

No, but a lot of people don't vote on sites where they have to register their personal details before doing so (you sometimes get bombarded with ads and offers not too long afterwards).

Some nice composition, you made an effort with variety and I quite liked the pace. I don't know your camera and didn't have time to look it up, but perhaps a UV or Polarising filter (if you have a thread) would have helped somewhat?

Keep shooting!

Paul William Miley

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dominicwitherow wrote:
Martyn

What a delightful and highly competent film! It makes me want to go to Zakopane! Very impressed with the quality of the audio, given the nature of the camera and your actual camerawork is particularly impressive, as much of it must have been via remote control of some sort. Lovely music too.

I wouldn't be worried about the low number of comments - this section seems to be habitually quiet. In all faith, your work is so good there may not be too much to be said!

I very much look forward to seeing more of your stuff.

Best
Dominic

Many thanks indeed. No remote ... just lots of running around lol. Music played by my daughter on fiddle and me on guitar. I'll post a link to another of my films ... comments much appreciated!! Martyn

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Paul W Miley wrote:
"160 views and only 2 replies Do I read anything into this?"

No, but a lot of people don't vote on sites where they have to register their personal details before doing so (you sometimes get bombarded with ads and offers not too long afterwards).

Some nice composition, you made an effort with variety and I quite liked the pace. I don't know your camera and didn't have time to look it up, but perhaps a UV or Polarising filter (if you have a thread) would have helped somewhat?

Keep shooting!

Thanks indeed for the comments. I like to use a still camera in movie mode ... it's small, light relatively cheap at £200 and has a great 18X zoom lens from Leica with OIS. I do use a skylight UV filter. Maybe I can experiment with software filters on the laptop? I'll upload another film for comments ... I'm enjoying learning :) Thanks again Martyn