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kaandaro
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Hiya

Ive had a glass of wine so feel brave enough to put up some of my lastest edits.

The B&G love it, but i would like to hear good or bad from anyone?

karen

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http://vimeo.com/25561557

Z Cheema
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Your camera work and editing have come along way, Karen.
having trouble playing on my netbook

also is it shot in 4:3?

kaandaro
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Thank you Cheema!

yes it is shot in 4.3

xx

Arthur.S
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Very nice Karen. Some lovely shots and story telling. Loved the shot at 2:45. A couple of comments though. 2 shots of gliding by the tree at the start, I'd suggest is one too many. Timing on the cut of "you aint seen nothing like me yet" (2:53) could have fell on the bride hamming it up and had more impact. Why 4:3?? Really confusicated by that one!! It's a dead format.

kaandaro
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Hi Arthur

Thanks for your comments, which ive taken on board.

When i shoot in 16:9 there are bars at the top and bottom which i cant stand.

in 4:3 it fills the whole of the TV without stretching?

xx

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kaandaro wrote:
Hi Arthur

Thanks for your comments, which ive taken on board.

When i shoot in 16:9 there are bars at the top and bottom which i cant stand.

in 4:3 it fills the whole of the TV without stretching?

xx

So, you've got a rather old TV too? :) What sort of TV do you think your customers use?

In fact, to be serious: if you're shooting weddings, and your customers have 16:9 TVs (they probably do) and they watch your 4:3 footage, they'll probably also stretch that to fit (most people do - to get rid of black bars at the side).

Result: the bride looks unrealistically fat - to be blunt. Is that what you want? It can't do much for your referral rate.

Martin - DVdoctor in moderation. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

kaandaro
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mooblie wrote:
So, you've got a rather old TV too? :) What sort of TV do you think your customers use?

In fact, to be serious: if you're shooting weddings, and your customers have 16:9 TVs (they probably do) and they watch your 4:3 footage, they'll probably also stretch that to fit (most people do - to get rid of black bars at the side).

Result: the bride looks unrealistically fat - to be blunt. Is that what you want? It can't do much for your referral rate.

My TV is 1 year old, 32 inch

My DVD's so far have been viewed with no problems, no one looks fat lol

xx

kaandaro
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Standard widescreen format on the TV?

foxvideo
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kaandaro wrote:
When i shoot in 16:9 there are bars at the top and bottom which i cant stand.

in 4:3 it fills the whole of the TV without stretching?

kaandaro wrote:
My TV is 1 year old, 32 inch

My DVD's so far have been viewed with no problems, no one looks fat lol

xx

Totally confused - does not compute :confused:

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kaandaro
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I know Fox, people have said this before?

My screen has 4:3, 14:9, wide screen, and other settings, but it is set to wide.

I stopped shooting in 16:9 months ago because of the bars, but everyone who has watched their finished product, does not have bars down the side, nor is the footage "stretched"?

The film just fills the screen on wide, looking all normal?

xx

foxvideo
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I think Alan Roberts needs to put some input here.....;)

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kaandaro
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I dont know what it does to make this happen correctly?

ChrisG
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Let us get some facts in the equation

Camera Make/Model

Software used for editing
and your television Make model.

Then we have a foundation to build from.

mooblie
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I think the key question is: are you producing anamorphic 16:9 DVDs for delivery? I think everyone would agree that's the goal you must achieve in 2011!

Martin - DVdoctor in moderation. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

kaandaro
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Camera Canon XL1s
Software Elements Premier 9
Tele Sony KDL32BX300 2010

Z Cheema
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I noticed the black bars in your online videos,

perproductions
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The black bars on your vimeo videos is because they are not outputted for vimeo correctly..is it not?

it is displaying a 16:9 image in a 4:3 player.
the correct vimeo export details can be found here - http://vimeo.com/help/compression

Just my input!!

foxvideo
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What are you using to produce DVD's?

If you play your DVD's on a computer are they 4:3 or 16:9? (can you provide a screengrab?)

(Looking again, I think Paul is correct - the Vimeo clip is 16:9 but sent to Vimeo as 4:3)

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kaandaro
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i produce in premier in PAL widescreen.

When watched on my tel in widescreen or smart screen, there is a SMALL gap to the left and right, but no where near like if it was watched in 4:3 mode?

Much the same as you can see on Vimeo.

Mark M
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I'll just butt in here and say that the VIMEO issue is caused by Premiere's reinterpretation of PAL PARs. We have always thought of PAL WS DV as being 1024x576. Adobe decided at CS4 that actually it should be 1050x576. So when you output PAL WS DV from Premiere you can often end up with these thin black lines up either side of your VIMEO video unless you retweak the export settings.

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kaandaro
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Mark M wrote:
I'll just butt in here and say that the VIMEO issue is caused by Premiere's reinterpretation of PAL PARs. We have always thought of PAL WS DV as being 1024x576. Adobe decided at CS4 that actually it should be 1050x576. So when you output PAL WS DV from Premiere you can often end up with these thin black lines up either side of your VIMEO video unless you retweak the export settings.

Thats interesting?

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Mark M
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I'd love to spend the time explaining in depth but am a bit rushed right now. However, it's all documented in the Adobe Help files for CS4, and here's a good post explaining it:
http://www.mikeafford.com/blog/2009/03/pal-d1-dv-widescreen-square-pixel-settings-in-after-effects-cs4-vs-cs3/

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