The new Wicked Days SDE

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Wicked
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OK, here we go. We have been working for some time on developing a 2 camera SDE that we hope will exceed expectations in big ways. We trialled our approach just at the end of July and you can see the results here.

http://www.wickeddays.com/movie.asp?mov=Wicked%20Days%20Productions%20-%20Nicola%20and%20Ray%20SDE

The film is 10 minutes long and covers 3 music tracks. We've waited to show it until now as we put it in for the IOV awards but it didn't get into the shortlist. I am more proud of this than anything else we have produced, but as always, I'm interested to know what you lot make of it.

I feel like a nervous parent waiting for their child's performance in the school play.......

northernimage
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Well I'd be proud of that too! For a SDE it's fantastic, I actually sat through the whole 10 minutes which is not like me at all.
There were a few odd cuts during the exchnge of rings part and the cuts were coming thick & fast as the film progressed - a bit too quick maybe for some, also I personally got a bit fed up with the PIP's, please don't take this as harsh criticism - just a personal view -having said all that it's still a damn fine piece of work.
Considering you had shots of the evening dancing I'm curious to know when it was shown to the guests?

PJ.

fuddam
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nicely done, esp as an SDE. smooth stuff :)

what did you shoot on? asking in terms of capture - must have been very tight if using tape

James lundy
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The quality was certainly evident and it was without doubt well produced. My only fault with it Jeremy, was that the style was too similar to a lot of your other productions and the couple of jump cuts with the rings.

That said though, for a SDE it's without doubt a 100% success.

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David L Lewis
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fuddam wrote:
nicely done, esp as an SDE. smooth stuff :)

what did you shoot on? asking in terms of capture - must have been very tight if using tape

Judging by the PIPs of the bride at home AND the groom getting ready you must have had 4 cameras on that shoot !

I find it tough enough working with one camera and operator in some homes so how do you manage to get two in.

David L Lewis

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BirtyBoy1
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Excellent achievement for a SDE. It's easy for us to pick out a few faults such as jump cuts and use of auto exposure but lets be fair, who in the audience would have noticed this. I'd also like to know what time it was shown and did you have a dedicated editor for the day?

James lundy wrote:
My only fault with it Jeremy, was that the style was too similar to a lot of your other productions QUOTE]

James, why would you want to edit it any other way, surely the client booked Wicked on their style.

Phil

Wicked
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Thanks for the comments so far.

The film was not shown to the couple on the day - they did not know that we were doing it. This was a trial run of a process that we have been working out for some time. There were two of us shooting and a dedicated editor all day. We would have been able to show the film to the couple at about 10pm, but because of the ambition of the task we didn't want to promise it until we knew we could manage it.

Having said that, we came clean to them afterwards and they were about as excited as we've seen clients get when we gave them the bonus film.

James lundy
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BirtyBoy1 wrote:
James, why would you want to edit it any other way, surely the client booked Wicked on their style.

It's not the client I'm talking about, but rather the judging panel. They will recognise Wicked's style straight off, and may not give it the attention it deserves. We all know that Jeremy can produce award winning material, but I feel it needed to be more 'off the wall' to make the judges sit up.

Bear in mind that the judges have to sit through 'all' the entries....which is why I didn't enter this year. I had a few really nice videos, but nothing that I felt would make the judges go 'holy crap, let's watch that again!' :)

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branny
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Nice slant on a theme Jeremy and very well put together.
We now produce about 20 SDEs a year and know the constraints and pressures of getting these ready.
This is a slicker production for you, but don't know wether the end result justifies having 2 at home cams and a dedicated editor there though.
Would a client be prepared to pay more for this coverage than a normal SDE?

I must admit, I thought the same as 'birtyboy' about your 'same as' comment James, though I now see where you're coming from.

Considering the recent henpecking of kandaroos contributions, I'm very surprised the 4:3 police have been absent over the aspect ratio upload violation.:D

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Good edit, well done.

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up_north
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I really enjoyed it generally. The PIP worked well for the first song but I got tired of it a bit later

branny wrote:
Considering the recent henpecking of kandaroos contributions, I'm very surprised the 4:3 police have been absent over the aspect ratio upload violation.:D

I didn't notice any distortion in Jeremy's film?

Ian

barbergraham
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I love alot of your work, but dont always like the winners of the iov but thats their opinion, what counts is what the customer thinks sod the pros as most tv is utter crap such as the recent gmtv wedding 4 camers for what! it was real poo they should ask for a refund oops they didnt pay. your videos are cool coz they have lots of pace however, I did get a little board of all the chatting and you over killed the double shots. I did like they way in which you mixed up the events of the day not many are doing that, great work though im sorry I couldnt watch it all.

barbergraham

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Taking into consideration everything that has been said, I thought this was excellent.

Yes their are some distractions, I think the PIP worked well to start but then became confusing as we were just looking at the same shot, but from a different angle. Some wobblies, don't we all do that from time to time!!! exposure issues, yes we all get caught out.

What I believe you have here is a winning formula, and with a little tweaking on your side this will be absolutely fantastic...

WHY! because I enjoyed practically every moment of it ,distractions aside! extremely entertaining and engaging, upbeat, fun, with great use of vocals and characters! and unique to boot.....Tough call I say!

So many films can be technically great but dead as a dodo for entertainment!

Cheers.:)
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