newbie looking for secondhand camera

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smokeyone
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I spotted on another thread about the Sony TVR 900. If I can find one in the Uk I assume I will not go far wrong. Any other suggested makes/models. If I am not asking too much - am I likely to have a picture quality on the TV screen on a par with a DVD purchased movie.

Thanks for any advice

Arthur.S
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smokeyone wrote:
am I likely to have a picture quality on the TV screen on a par with a DVD purchased movie.

Played back from the tape, definitely. But you will lose a little when converting to MPEG2 for DVD.

smokeyone
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Thanks for the info. Any alternative suggestions please. My only other idea was to hire a camera from time to time................

Wisz
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DV output can certainly be as good a quality as DVD.

DVD media is simply a method of distribution and not yardstick to measure quality.

Nearly all video on DVD is compressed using the MPEG2 algorithm for playback on a normal DVD player; this will usually entail some loss of quality from the original image, just as it would from a DV to MPEG2 conversion.
A governing factor on converting an image to MPEG2 is the compression ratio required to fit the data into the space on the DVD.

There are many different factors upon which the image quality is dependant.
Not least the equipment used and expertise/experience of the persons using it.

The economics of buying or hiring equipment is totally dependant upon your usage, obviously it will be cheaper to buy equipment if you are going to us it frequently or hire equipment if used infrequently.

The advantage of owning your own equipment is that you get to know its operation and capabilities inside out.
Where as, if you hire equipment you have to learn it's operation and capabilities quickly, as any time used to familiarise yourself with the equipment, you are paying for.

Other factors which you may need to take into consideration: are maintenance, storage, insurance, transport and compatibility.

Caveat Emptor is the watchwords for buying equipment second hand.

If possible try it out, ask lots of questions, buy from a reputable dealer etc.
As has been said in other posts on this forum, cameras of the TVR-900, XM-1, XL-1 vintage are now getting quite long in the tooth and some will certainly be showing signs of their age.

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paulless
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Can anyone tell me what I should look at spending on some of the more popular makes/models or direct me to a good second hand site so I can compare prices etc.? So, I've been looking on ebay at the Sony TRV 900 and the 950 and also at the Sony PD100 and the Sony FX-1 but I don't really know what a good price would be? What about the Sony VX1000 - Is it still worth buying? Thanks!

Arthur.S
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Frome the 900 to the FX-1 is a pretty wide range pauless! What will you be using the cam for?

paulless
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I'm not sure really exactly what I'll use it for?! Mostly family and sport related events and then maybe I'll get into something a bit more serious like weddings. I've been editing for about two years on Final Cut but always used footage that people brought in and never really got into shooting my own - hence my almost complete ignorance in the camera department!! Any help much appreciated!

Arthur.S
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Well if size doesn't matter - i.e. you won't be taking it to the beach! - the FX-1 would be the way to go. BUT...it's well worth considering a second hand VX2100. Superb cam, & far better in low light than the FX-1. (flame proof suit now on :) )

paulless
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Thanks Arthur! Can anyone give me a few rough prices on the second hand camera's I've mentioned above? Particulary the cheaper ones :)

Arthur.S
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Not really Paul. You get an odd one in the classified section here. E-bay is as good a place to start as any. I got a good low hrs PD150 a short while back - very pleased with it.
Try: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SONY-DCR-TRV950E-3CCD-MiniDV-CAMCORDER-PAL_W0QQitemZ7615777421QQcategoryZ20333QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Or:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SONY-HDR-HC1E-DIGITAL-HD-CAMCORDER-BRAND-NEW-SEALED_W0QQitemZ7614772807QQcategoryZ20333QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Both of these are 'time out' very shortly, but there will be others. As usual with e-bay, be careful. Buy only from the long time members with good feedback.

Good luck!