Reception Line

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David L Lewis
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I usualy find the reception line the most difficult part to make interesting but a couple suggested a piece of music they would like to have it edited to and I thought I would have some fun.

Does it work?
http://www.shoulerproductions.com/Samples/Amanda%20and%20Toby/Amandaandtoby2%20.wmv

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Well done David, that was excellent, I would imagine the couple were delighted with it, as you say, one of the most difficult parts to make interesting, made into what I am sure they will see as one of the best bits.

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DAVE M
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you managed to include yourself! and a camera on a monopod

Which I don't see as a problem, gven the "documentary" element in a wedding.

The music will probably date less thana "favourite song"

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Most of it works great David. The bits that don't (for me) are ridiculous. The shots of the cam operator looking bored/ reflections in the mirror etc and the cutting halfway through a pan/tilt spoil the professional finish.
I don't ever remember seeing a wedding photo album with shots of the tog in, do you?

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Well done! How long did that not take to get put that all together?:)

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DAVE M
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not having looked at it again, I think you can get away with the camera op, as the line blocks him out (but if it were me, I'd move the edit up a bit if poss)

I think I'd maybe remove the camera on a pod, and if I had to, slow the guest down if I needed the shot

David L Lewis
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You've got a keen eye Branny!

Agreed that video camera shots shouldnt be there but I'm not sure about eliminating the photographer. I see him as part of the day and useful for cutaways etc. If he gets in the way of a serious shot I would naturaly remove him but this is a bit of fun and him blocking my shot just adds to it (IMHO of course)

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David L Lewis
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It took a couple of days to do Tony. Now I wouldnt normally spend that long on just 3 minutes of video , but these were a nice couple , good taste in music , so I went that bit extra for them. I enjoyed experimenting, trying things out to see if they worked or not

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branny
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Didn't suggest removing the tog.
As you say, he's one of the crowd and that's what crowds do.

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Excellent and fun David, as it should be. I also use shots of the tog regularly, he is part of the day, as are you. I am sure the couple will love it

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I'm very sorry but I didn't like it, I thought it was rather cringeworthy.
The editing to the music was good but everything else just didn't for me. The shots of the room in the beginning were too long and static. The music reminded me of some 1920's slapstick, but it got worse when you speeded up the people, then it just looked like something from Benny Hill. There are no close up shots of people, you can't really see any reactions to the greetings, and hence no emotions. Don't really get the point of the shot of the top of the woman at 2.18 :confused: Too many cameo shots, you looked rather uninterested. The whole thing was just too long and too gimmicky. Sorry. :o

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Ouch:)

I'm glad you posted that SJJ.

It made me laugh, but for all the wrong reasons. Benny hill I kept saying to myself:) , it was so comical. I think it could work if, done for a few scenes, but throughout the whole reception line! it looked like you really were trying to speed up the whole thing!!

Well done though for being brave, and I guess it must have took a while to do....

Just my thoughts.

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David L Lewis
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SJJ wrote:
I'm very sorry but I didn't like it, I thought it was rather cringeworthy.
The editing to the music was good but everything else just didn't for me. The shots of the room in the beginning were too long and static. The music reminded me of some 1920's slapstick, but it got worse when you speeded up the people, then it just looked like something from Benny Hill. There are no close up shots of people, you can't really see any reactions to the greetings, and hence no emotions. Don't really get the point of the shot of the top of the woman at 2.18 :confused: Too many cameo shots, you looked rather uninterested. The whole thing was just too long and too gimmicky. Sorry. :o

Sylvia, Dont ever apologise for giving an opinion. I'm grateful that you have taken the time to look at my work. It reinforces my view that there is a huge diversity in what people like and dislike in wedding videos...and that has to be a good thing because it creates more opportunities for more of us to enjoy this business.

Your videos are very different to mine because I expect your clients tastes are very different to mine.

As I said at the outset I dont like filming the reception line however my clients seem to want to see as many of their friends and families on the video and the reception line does give an opportunity to include some people you may have missed. If I didnt include "Aunty Jean" and her funny little hat I'd be asked why not?

The client provided the choice of Music ( He's a big Billy Joel fan) and , in his words, said it would "provide me with a bit of a challenge." The client loved the outcome.

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SJJ
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Phew! I felt really bad about giving such harsh comments, so it's a relief to hear you don't think badly of me now! :o
As you say, different styles, different likes and that's a good thing. I do think you did really well with the music! As long as the client is happy, that's the most important thing! :)

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DAVE M
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It might have been nicer if you'd managed to shoot over the wedding party's shoulder? So you see the face of the guest rather than the back? I assume that's why they wanted to record the meet'n'greet - for old time's sake?

That's assuming it was possible to get a camera position there

David L Lewis
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Thats the big problem with reception lines. Most of the time the receivers have their backs to a wall and the guests file past them. So you are limited in the number of angles you can get and who you can get face on.

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DAVE M
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yes.

I don't do weddings but often have to document events and the art is to record what happens rather than make a song and dance about the perfect shot

Arthur.S
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On the whole I liked it Dave. Looked like a lot of work though! Not everything quite worked. The receiving line is one of those things that we'd probably like to NOT film. ;) For big weddings they can be half an hour long!:( Unfortunately, some clients do want it in. I generally jazz up a short version to something like Barry White's You're my first, my last, my everything. And then put the whole boring version on the disc as a separate item available only via the menu.

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Flame1 wrote:
Ouch:)

I'm glad you posted that SJJ.

It made me laugh, but for all the wrong reasons. Benny hill I kept saying to myself:) , it was so comical. I think it could work if, done for a few scenes,

I don't think speeding up of people moving works at all for precisely the reasons given - it looks like something out of Benny Hill or the Teletubbies. It's a common gimmick on today's TV and it always makes me cringe. Personally, I find it a bit patronising, really.

Arthur.S
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The bottom line Stuart is the customer's opinion. David's people liked it. I think it's a good alternative to keeping the whole thing in the finished article, which is mind numbingly boring.
My 2p worth anyway. :)

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Arthur.S wrote:
The bottom line Stuart is the customer's opinion. David's people liked it.

As you say, that is the main concern (which kind of makes redundant anyone posting clips on here for comments). I was merely stating my opinion which I stand by. When I see that kind of thing on TV, it's often enough to make me switch off.