Seminar promo

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branny
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Produced this as a promo for a photographer. Using her company's photos as a lead in/out
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v3080230ENEMJA3Q?c=CRAVENIMAGEs

Do not follow, I may not lead. Do not lead . . . I may not follow.

Flame1
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Hi Branny. I really like what you have done and how you have put her portfolio together.

What I did find uncomfortable was the speaker(photographer)

She came across hesitant and nervous with little composure!

She rushed her words towards the end. I think she needs to take a few deep breaths
and compose herself better. Maybe smaller segments or bullet points of what she
wants to say!

Not sure if you can change this though, or if you feel the same about this?:)

Cheers,

flame.

up_north
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I worked with Andrea once and she was amazing behind the camera. But I have to agree with Flame that she seemed uncomfortable with that presentation.

The selection of photographs wasn't inspiring - the same shot was used at 0:20 and 0:56. The Ken Burns effect at 0:23 doesn't work at all - the groom's face is chopped off and we never see the bride's at all; but that photo is used again in the 3 '6-up' shots aswell as the '3D' one

If Andrea really wants to do the presentation then maybe place her in her studio or somewhere wehere she feels more comfortable.

The script could do with tidying "...and other things like that...."

I know it sounds critical but if I was an aspiring wedding photographer I wouldn't be racing to sign up based on that promo.

Ian

branny
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Andrea WAS in her studio and this IS Andrea. She is by nature shy and hesitant, though you wouldn't know it when working a wedding day with her.
Her catchphrase to groomsmen is
" Hello, I'm Andrea; spelt . . . . b a s t a r d!" Behave and we'll have a great day.
Use of duplicate photos was to show different angles and crops used in portfolios.
This was also HER script which worked ever so well in pulling in the delegates.

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up_north
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Yes I know it's Andrea. I'm not sure what was in my post to suggest I thought it was someone else. By "in her studio" I meant the "factory floor" not behind her desk.

I can well believe her catchphrase - but she was great with us - I was in a location where I couldn't get a good shot of the ring going on so she sent me a photograph that I could cut in.

I just think that the photographs in her gallery on her website are much more interesting than the ones in that promo.

Ian

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Not sure what you used to produce it but I'd have liked to see 'smoothing' on the picture moves at the begining and end if you understand what I'm talking about! (control+click on the keyframe in FCP ;) )

PTC was a bit 'stark', could have dressed it a bit more - shot on the angle not straight, computer in background, an album/proofs on desk, maybe holding a camera?

Just my 2p worth.

Dave Farrants Fox Video Editing

branny
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I know in hindsight (as we all do) that much more could have been done with this project, but believe me this was a real quickie and we were all happy to have something 'up there'.
I can see many, many more options if time had allowed - This was filmed, edited and uploaded in a day, 9 months ago.

Up north. I know, you know Andrea, you met her at a wedding once. Just wasn't sure if you knew her well enough to know her personality away from a wedding, hence my reply.
You won't see many of the used shots on her website either - Most are by Dick, her ex. :)

http://forums.dvdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=46820

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Lusky
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Hi Branny,

given that it was done in a day then I can see why you were limited in what you could do. However as a piece on it's own I'd maybe have liked some on location shots of her taking pictures at a wedding to make it a bit more interesting.
It's hard to get people to relax in front of camera. because she's selling something, you can't get her to talk to someone off camera like a talking head interview but equally you need to avoid the "Hi I'm Troy McLure...." moments so it's hard to get right. Would only using text have worked? or was essential that she spoke?
Anyway, the main thing is that it worked which is all it needs to do.

John Paul

branny
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Cheers Lusky. I've a lot to learn on getting relaxed interviewing techniques, especially with very nervous subjects. Like many operators, we don't do enough of em to refine the style, especially at short notice.
This clip sprang to mind when using stills was discussed in a previous thread. It's something we can all use at appropriate moments when either a clip doesn't fit the bill, or as I have done, to illustrate a photographers shooting style.

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H and M Video
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Thought she needed to relax a bit more and needs to be less "wooden" in her posture. But isn't this the usual case for people who are normally behind the camera lens? Still good to watch, nothing fancy but effective.

Harry

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Dodge
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As said earlier a little smoothing (Acceleration in Avid) would of made a big difference, also I'm not to keen on the cut at 19seconds i don't think it works, and the tilt down that follows you can see the left edge of the still. Could of done with less head room on the interview, she's sitting very low in the frame.

To get a more relaxed looking subject in interviews, a few things you could try is.
The chair, never use a swivel chair. When the subject is uneasy they always swivel the chair.
You could also try not talking direct to camera have the subjects eye line just to the left or to the right of camera. The hardest thing with talking direct to camera is you get no emotional feed back, it is a art to be natural talking to camera.

DAVE M
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I try to use a stool as the talent tend to slouch in a chair. Setting up a "fake" studio at work would add interest to the background. Just a pile of kit lying around

Maybe have her talk to someone in more of a conversation? You could cut out the interactions so that she comes over making more relaxed statement-like comments - maybe even with dip to blacks between the edits