Trying to go pro...

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Joined: Mar 18 2008

Hi there.
First of all, I'd like to say thanx for a great forum. I've been a visitor a while, but now finally signed up, since now it's time for me to ask about some advices and help.

See, shortly, I love makin' and editing videos, and this is what I want to be better on. I got always so many ideas, and my mind never stops producing them. At first I basicly made videos for the site, but also some others. I'm have always been my amateur video DV-camera, and Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5, and my mind :) Lately I've been doing some work for many producers/artists and other works. I have starting to do my own videos, and here are some of them:

Start The Riot -
Who's Fooling Who -
Africa -
Just to mention a couple of them.

The artists I did these video for, now want me to record some pro videos for them.
What was first, was that I knew that I had to get a better video camera.
So I have been checking out different ones the last 4-6 months, and yesterday I finally bought a JVC Everio GZ-HD7. The camera is freakin' cool!

But now that I am starting to operate this camera, I realize how different it is compared to my normal way of woring.
Before, I did the following:
* recorded/filmed with my DV-camera
* converted from the mini DV-disc to the computer
* converted to a mgp-file so I could edit it in Adobe Premiere
* edited and added effects with AP 1.5 PRO
* then it was just saving, and I was done!

Now, this one records in .tod files, that are enormous! How am I suppose to work now?
Please, give me some advices.
* How do I get the files smaller, and yet remain the great quality?
* Which way is the best to convert? avi? mpg2? if I am using Adobe Premiere?
* And finally, which size shall I shrink it to, if I will be makin' videos for tv-stations or similar? is it 720x576 or bigger/smaller?


Joined: Apr 2 2006


Firstly, I think you have some good stuff on youtube, but you can get much better looking results with the right kit.

For Youtube, what you are using seems to work very well, but if you want to go beyond the web you are likely to find yourself limited by your camera. You'll find masses of discussions about sensor sizes (CCDs or CMOS) and video formats in the other areas of the forum, and I strongly recommend you have a look around them for details on the multiple issues about which you need to be aware (eg light sensitivity, video compression, solid state vs tape etc).

There is too much to go into in a single post, but I will address your specific questions:

"How do I get the files smaller, and yet remain the great quality?" - you don't! Your files are already highly compressed and further compression will damage the image quality. What you need is a dedicated, large hard drive onto which to capture your footage. This would typically be an external firewire or USB2 drive (firewire tends to be better for video). It should ideally operate at 7200rpm too. There really isn't any way around that if you are serious about your editing.

"Which way is the best to convert? avi? mpg2? if I am using Adobe Premiere?" - there is software that should come with the camera that converts the files for Windows. For Premiere they should be, again ideally, .avi files with no further compression used.

"And finally, which size shall I shrink it to, if I will be makin' videos for tv-stations or similar? is it 720x576 or bigger/smaller?" - you need to find out directly from the broadcaster exactly what their requirements are. You may find they have stipulated standards for not just video formats, but also camera specifications too, so it is best to find out before you even shoot your footage.

I hope that helps a bit?


Joined: Aug 31 2007


From what I have seen - I think your work is awesome - and if there is a chance for you to go "pro" - grab it. I loved the billboard effect in the first linked video, and i can't believe that you are doing that for "free" / "mates rates" or whatever.

Good luck!


Joined: Nov 6 2001

Fandabidosi Tumbo - Only time to watch one - Love 'start the riot'.
Nothing to hold you back on the video front at all, many operators would chew their arms off to make videos half as good.

Do not follow, I may not lead. Do not lead . . . I may not follow.

Joined: Nov 19 2005

just watched the first link. nicely done, but would like to see how it would compare to have the billboards in colour. My reasoning is that there's already motion elsewhere in the frame, so the eye is not necessarily drawn to the (intended) primary focus. Am just curious.

re your questions: you want the files smaller - why? for youtube use?

what does that camera use for recording? disk? if so, you might have shot yourself in the foot, seeing as you appear to be serious about production. Tape would be the best option for quality, over HDD or DVD. The latter both compromise quality for convenience.