two hard disks required , but i need help to decide

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spudair
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I have been into Dabs,Insight,Simply,watford and technomatic looking at hard drives but i cannot pick from the vast range
I have the Matrox G200 Edit suite
a Mother board that supports DMA33 disks
(J-7BXA)
I have decided to go for two disks 17gb +
I will be putting each disk in a caddy for swapping over so only one disk in system at a time.
I have read all the previous notes on disks but still confused...(ATA,EIDE,UDMA etc etc)

the disks and prives from the top suppliers
in the following replies...any help appreciated....(YES BOB I,m back to haunt you
Its upgrade time.... :)

spudair
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Joined: Jun 17 1999

Offerings from DABS
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Medalist 17242 17.2Gb UDMA66£103.38
Barracuda 20430 20.4Gb UDMA66£175.07
Barracuda 28040 28.0Gb UDMA66£171.55
DiamondMax 6800 20.4Gb UDMA66£135.10
DiamondMax 6800 27.2Gb UDMA66£169.20
DiamondMax+ 5120 20.4Gb UDMA66£152.72
DiamondMax VL17 17.4Gb UDMA66£106.92
DiamondMax 36 18.2Gb UDMA66£105.72
DiamondMax 36 36.5Gb UDMA66£224.40
DiamondMax+ 6800 20.4Gb UDMA66£139.82
DiamondMax+ 6800 27.3Gb UDMA66£196.20
PicoBird 14 17.0Gb UDMA66£101.05
PicoBird 14 20.4Gb UDMA66£152.75
PicoBird 14 27.3Gb UDMA66£191.52
PicoBird 14 20.4Gb UDMA66£153.92
PicoBird 14 27.3Gb UDMA66£191.52
Fireball Plus KA 18.2Gb UDMA66£151.57
Fireball CX 20.4Gb UDMA66£150.40
Caviar 20.4Gb UDMA66£204.45
Expert 18.0Gb UDMA66£213.85
Expert 27.3Gb UDMA66£257.32
Deskstar 25GP 20.3Gb UDMA66£142.17
Deskstar 25GP 25.0Gb UDMA66£171.55
Deskstar 37GP 37.5Gb UDMA66£274.95
Deskstar 34GXP 27.3Gb UDMA66£251.45
Deskstar 34GXP 34.2Gb UDMA66£350.15

spudair
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Joined: Jun 17 1999

Offerings from Insight
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IBM007 ibm deskstar gp 20.3gb eide ata-4 3.5" 5400rpm hard drive £218.54
IBM011 ibm deskstar xgp 18gb eide ata-4 3.5" 7200rpm hard drive £148.04
IBM012 ibm deskstar xgp 22gb eide ata-4 3.5" 7200rpm hard drive £270.24
HAMX039 20.4gb diamond max plus 5120 3.5" retail box £175.06
HAMX038 20.4gb diamond max plus 7200rpm oem drive £211.49
HAMX043 20.4gb diamond max 6800 ide oem drive 5400rpm £135.11
HAMX044 27.2gb diamond max ide drive oem 5400rpm £170.36
HAMX051 20gb diamond max 6800 retail box hdd 5400rpm £166.84
HAMX052 27.2gb diamond max 6800 retail box hdd 5400rpm £200.91
HAMX056 20.4gb diamond max plus 5120 7200rpm udma66 ide hdd oem £152.74
HAMX058 18.2gb diamond max 36 ide hdd 5400rpm udma66 oem £105.74
IBM007 ibm deskstar gp 20.3gb eide ata-4 3.5" 5400rpm hard drive £218.54
IBM011 ibm deskstar xgp 18gb eide ata-4 3.5" 7200rpm hard drive £148.04
IBM012 ibm deskstar xgp 22gb eide ata-4 3.5" 7200rpm hard drive £270.24
HAMX039 20.4gb diamond max plus 5120 3.5" retail box £175.06
HAMX038 20.4gb diamond max plus 7200rpm oem drive £211.49
HAMX043 20.4gb diamond max 6800 ide oem drive 5400rpm £135.11
HAMX044 27.2gb diamond max ide drive oem 5400rpm £170.36
HAMX051 20gb diamond max 6800 retail box hdd 5400rpm £166.84
HAMX052 27.2gb diamond max 6800 retail box hdd 5400rpm £200.91
HAMX056 20.4gb diamond max plus 5120 7200rpm udma66 ide hdd oem £152.74
HAMX058 18.2gb diamond max 36 ide hdd 5400rpm udma66 oem £105.74

spudair
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Joined: Jun 17 1999

Offerings from simply
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Fujitsu MPD3173AT-UD 17.3GB 9.5ms UDMA 66 NO - 2 Days£110.45*
Fujitsu MPE3204AT 20.4GB 9.5ms 5400rpm UDMA66 2MB NO - 3 Days£163.33*
Fujitsu MPE3273AT 27.3GB 9.5ms 5400rpm UDMA66 2MB YES £198.58*
Fujitsu Mirai MPD3173AT-UD 17.3GB 9.5ms UDMA 66 NO - 2 Days£122.20*
Fujitsu MPE3170AT 17GB 9.5ms 5400rpm UDMA66 2MB NO - 14 Days£116.33*
DJNA-352500 25GB 9ms 5400rpm UDMA66 2MB YES£202.10*
DJNA-352030 20.3GB 9ms 5400rpm UDMA66 2MB 25L2650 NO - 2 Days£150.40*
DJNA-371800 18GB 9ms 7200rpm UDMA66 2MB YES £153.93*
DJNA-372200 22GB 9ms 7200rpm UDMA66 2MB (25L2661) YES£192.70*
IBM DPTA-372050 20.5GB 9ms 7200rpm UDMA66 2MB YES£175.08*
Maxtor 5120 20.4GB 9ms 7200rpm UDMA33 512K Retail NO - 2 Days£179.78*
Maxtor 6800 20GB 9ms 5400rpm UDMA66 2MB Retail NO - 2 Days£178.60*
Maxtor 6800 27.2GB 9ms 5400rpm UDMA66 2MB Retail YES£225.60*
Maxtor 92720U8 27.2GB 9ms 5400rpm UDMA66 2MB YES £198.58*
Maxtor DiamondMax PLUS 92048U8 20.4GB 9ms 7200rpm YES£163.33*
Quantum Fireball CX 20.4GB 9.5ms 5400rpm UDMA66 YES£163.33*
Quantum Fireball Plus KA 18.2GB 8.5ms 7200rpm YES£162.15*
Seagate ST320430A Barracuda 20GB 7.6ms 7200 512K NO - 3 Days£183.30*
Seagate ST328040A Barracuda 28GB 7.6ms 7200 512K NO - 3 Days£230.30*
Seagate ST320430A Barracuda 20GB 7.6ms 7200 512K NO - 3 Days£183.30*
Seagate ST328040A Barracuda 28GB 7.6ms 7200 512K NO - 3 Days£230.30*
Western Dig Expert 20.5GB 10ms 7200rpm 512K NO - 2 Days£242.05*
Western Dig Expert 27.3GB 10ms 7200rpm 512K NO - 2 Days £269.08*
Western Digital AC20400 Caviar 20GB 10ms YES£175.08*
Western Digital Expert 18.0GB 10ms 7200rpm YES £186.83*
Western Digital Retail Expert 18.0GB 10ms 7200rpm NO - 20 Days£233.83*

spudair
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Offerings from Technomatic & Watford
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MAXTOR HDD 18.2GB IDE DIAMONDMAX 36 91826U4 (£124.54)
QUANTUM KA HDD 18.2GB 3.5 ULTRA ATA/66 40-PIN (£173.89)
IBM HDD DESKSTAR 22 GXP 18GB 3.5 ULTRA ATA 40-PIN (£182.11)

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Watford..............

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Fujitsu 20.4Gb Ultra ATA IDE Hard Drive 5400 RPM£158.62
Fujitsu 27.3Gb Ultra ATA IDE Hard Drive 5400 RPM£198.58
Fujitsu MAE3182LP - 18.2Gb LVD HDD (3.5"/7200)£499.38
Fujitsu MPD3173AT - 17.2Gb ATA HDD (3.5"/5400)£104.58
IBM 20.3Gb IDE Ultra Hard Drive (3.5"/7200)£175.08
IBM Deskstar 25GP - 20.3Gb ATA HDD (3.5"/5400)£146.88
IBM Deskstar 25GP - 25.0Gb ATA HDD (3.5"/5400)£175.08
IBM Deskstar 25GP - 37.5Gb ATA HDD (3.5"/5400)£316.08
IBM Deskstar 27.3GB EIDE 7200RPM Hard Drive 3.5"£252.62
IBM Deskstar 34.2Gb EIDE 7200 RPM HArd Drive 3.5"£339.58
Maxtor 92040U6 - Max 6800 20.4Gb HDD (3.5"/5400)£198.58
Maxtor 92720U8 - Max 6800 27.2Gb HDD (3.5"/5400)£222.08
Quantum Fireball +KA - 18.2Gb ATA HDD (3.5"/7200)£151.58
Quantum Fireball CR - 20.4Gb ATA HDD (3.5"/5400)£155.10
Quantum Fireball KX 20.5Gb Ultra ATA HDD£210.32
Western Digital - 18Gb ATA (3.5"/7200RPM)£175.08
Western Digital - 20.4Gb ATA HDD (3.5"/5400) £158.62
Western Digital WD205BA 20.5Gb ATA HDD (3.5"/7200)£210.32
Western Digital WD273BA 27.3Gb ATA HDD (3.5"/7200):£233.82

david fuller
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Joined: Jun 19 1999

Never mind the small stuff! Tech Direct advertise in December Computer Shopper for Maxtor 36 series 36.2Gb at the unbelievable price of £172 (inc VAT). It's so unbelievable, it ain't true! I've just phoned and confirmed that fig is an error. It's £218, still pretty good, and I've just bought one.

spudair
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Joined: Jun 17 1999

Dave,
should that work without bios or
40/80 pin cable upgrades etc...

EASY plug & play in other words

david fuller
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Joined: Jun 19 1999

spudair,

Ah, a good question. The answer will probably depend on how good and recent your set-up is, especially the BIOS. Me, I'm no expert, and I normally ASK the questions, not gtive out answers. However, after much study of this and other bulletin boards AND having an old-ish TX motherboard with BIOS (by AMI)which certainly won't support big discs or ATA66 properly, I'm also buying a Promise Ultra66 card. This costs just over £50. If I remember, I'll let you know how it goes.

For more info, including some BIOS related problems, try the Promise websight (probably promise.com). Get genned up as much as you can before going ahead.

If Tech Direct cannot help (I understand I bought the last one, but they may have restocked), try Insight.

Regards, David Fuller

david fuller
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Joined: Jun 19 1999

spudair,

Ah, a good question. The answer will probably depend on how good and recent your set-up is, especially the BIOS. Me, I'm no expert, and I normally ASK the questions, not gtive out answers. However, after much study of this and other bulletin boards AND having an old-ish TX motherboard with BIOS (by AMI)which certainly won't support big discs or ATA66 properly, I'm also buying a Promise Ultra66 card. This costs just over £50. If I remember, I'll let you know how it goes.

For more info, including some BIOS related problems, try the Promise websight (probably promise.com). Get genned up as much as you can before going ahead.

If Tech Direct cannot help (I understand I bought the last one, but they may have restocked), try Insight.

Regards, David Fuller

bcrabtree
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Joined: Mar 7 1999

Bottom line is simply to ensure that you use an 80-wire ATA66 cable and run the 66UPDATE.EXE program which switches the drive to report itself as ATA33.

Bob C