ADOBE AFTER EFFECTS - Any Alternatives?

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Angelo
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Joined: Feb 27 2001

Hi all

I am totally fed up with the instability of After Effects and the slow render times.

Are there any other similar (and as poweful) software products available?

Angelo

Mad_mardy
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there is a program form pinnacle called commotion,but i would be a bit worried as after effects is notoriously stable the only time i've had version 4.1 close on me was due to a dodgy plugin.
Rendering requires a good processor and a lot of ram if you don't have these then any compositing program will be slow

System 1: AMD X6 2.8, M4A79 Deluxe, 4GB DDR2, ATI HD4870 1GB DDR 3, 2TB total drive space, Matrox RTX 2, Premiere Pro CS4

System 2: AMD X2 5600, M2NPV-VM, 2GB DDR2, Geforce 8600GT 256 DDR 3, 450GB Total drive space, RTX100 with Premiere Pro 2

Camera's: JVC HD200, JVC HD101, 2X Sony HC62

billyh
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quote:Originally posted by Mad_mardy:
i would be a bit worried as after effects is notoriously stable

After Effects (and probably all of the Adobe range or "high end" software) certainly cannot be called "notoriously stable"!

Even on a reasonably high spec machine the render times are horrendous and the program crashes much more often than Premiere.

Having said that tho' now that I'm running it under Windows XP Professional I haven't noticed quite as many crashes, but I'll have to give it more time!

Certainly it will render properly (and run without crashing) for simple composites, like a bit of scrolling text here and there, but give it a complex composition with about 10 layers and you have to have a state of the art PC with a couple of Gigabytes of RAM and a decent processor (i.e. well above 1Ghz) as well as the patience of a Saint.

I run it on an Athlon 1Ghz with 512Mb of RAM but this is only enough for relatively small composites to render properly (at 720 x 576).

An alternative to After Effects would be welcomed by many people!

William Hepburn

Mad_mardy
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Thats very odd i have done medium size composites on a duron 700mhz with 256 ram
(i don't run this now) with no crashes and not bad rendering times,remeber the codec used will not be hardware accelerated as is when using premiere (NON OHCI cards that is)

System 1: AMD X6 2.8, M4A79 Deluxe, 4GB DDR2, ATI HD4870 1GB DDR 3, 2TB total drive space, Matrox RTX 2, Premiere Pro CS4

System 2: AMD X2 5600, M2NPV-VM, 2GB DDR2, Geforce 8600GT 256 DDR 3, 450GB Total drive space, RTX100 with Premiere Pro 2

Camera's: JVC HD200, JVC HD101, 2X Sony HC62

billyh
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I've just managed to get a hold of a copy of Pinnacle Commotion Pro 4.0.

This is an excellent compositing program that obviously while it does not have the range of features of After Effects it has more than enough features for the majority of users.

It also seems to be able to generate previews without the delays and stuttering of After Effects.

The range of built in effects etc is quite adequate and I would recommend that everyone gets a hold of this program.

A demo is available from Pinnacle.

William Hepburn

Jim Bird
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Joined: Sep 15 2000

Billyh,

Which card are you using with your system?

Jim Bird.

billyh
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Joined: Dec 2 2000

Hi Jim

The Pinnacle DV500!

William Hepburn

Trevor Page
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Joined: Oct 4 1999

Been Learning After effects 5 by using the Classrroom in a book tutorials. Athlon 900 256Mb RAM. Noticed some problems in preview but reduced the preview settings like it said in the tutorials and the problems went away. The only nasty bit, is I've tried to convert everything to PAL 720*576 25fps, but not everything lines up nicely.

Crashes? What crashes?
Render times .................... need to buy some more coffee!

Win XP Pro

Trev

Scuba
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Joined: Jul 13 2001

We were playing with commotion 3 and now got 4 full.
Version 3 came with learning CDs with video tutorials on them. Very easy to learn.
Commotion also have addons and PlugIns for more features.

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benhaines
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Joined: Apr 22 2002

Hi Angelo, I guess something must be wrong with your setup that is causing afx to crash... yes renders can be slow... especially when you are using blurs and doing multi-layer compositing, but that is the case with software only rendering... its life. Adobe products are notoriously stable... hence the very small number of fixes they release. Also as the de facto software they have a huge beta user base.

Anyway enough about that, if you really want to change or try some other software give these ago:

Pinnacle Commotion Pro 4
Newtek Aura 2
Discreet Combustion 2
EyeOnline Fusion 3.1
Nothing Real Shake (now owned by Apple )
Silicon Grail Rayz

My personal opinion is that afx will do the job! But give the above a try... I think some have demo version, but some are unfortunately just too expensive... in which case you might have to call dodgy dave for a special version

Later Ben