Advice on how to burn Video_ts files

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Rajuk
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hiya

need some advice Storm system on a Sony RX203 using dvd movie factory.

i have a few projects i wanna make to dvd and a while back i was using movie factory to make Video_ts files and then using veritas now to burn these to dvd as data disc and hence make dvds.

However these didnt work, i have manged to burn dvds now in that i either burn a dvd straight away with movie factory once encoding done or burn an image file and use this.

My problem is that i have a project already made and burnt to a Video_ts and audio_ts folder.

how can i burn this to disc to make it work on consumer dvds. i know that if i use vertias now , the discs will play on pc ok but not on consumer dvd player.

fisherman
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Rajuk,

Not sure I understand your question, is it the case that you hav a completely authored DVD (VOB set, plus all the other file types) BUT, you can't burn the files properely so that they play properly ?

If this is the case, have you tried "Imgtool" this will create an image for you, after which you can use Movie Factory to burn the image (I'v used it myself loads of time with complete success).

Imgtool is a free download from www.doom9.org

Another excelllant programme worth checking out is "Ifoedit" also available on the same site. (Tip use Ifoedit and the "Get VTS sectors" function. Very easy to use)

Paul

Rajuk
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yeah thats it

ive made a four projects and intially made 4gb mpeg files for each one.

For two of them i deleted the original mpeg files and just have them as vob files in a Video_ts directory.

I deleted the original mpeg files before realised that after encoding with movie factory
i have to make image files if i wanna burn at a later date.
Hence for two of the projects i have the original mpeg files and can rencode with movie factory and burn.

But the other two projects are as Video_ts files. as mentioned before i cant record these discs using datadisc option with veritas record now.

I will use hat program that you mentioned and see if i make an image of the video_ts folder will work thanks

Rajuk
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hey thanks . worked a treat.

I even managed to copy the old dvds that played on computer ok but not in set top player to my hardrive and then burn this to disc again and the program corrected the order.

Cool

They all work now

Thanks

rongrover
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Joined: Jun 1 2002

Hi.there is alot of jargon used in the above postings about the various types of files etc.
Anyone care to explain in the simplist way you can what they all actualy mean. I know it would help me and I am sure many others.

All the best Ron.

Rajuk
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Basically you make you project on your camcorder.

Via firewire you capture this footage to you hardrive. I usually have a full 3hours.

This gets captured in AVI file format which is 25mb/sec. About 36gb for three hours.

This is then edited using for example premiere, edition, studio clip.

We now have a avi file edited. You can copy this back to dv tape.

If you want to make a dvd You first have to convert, or a better term compress this large avi file into a smaller MPEG2 file so that it can fit onto a 4.7 gb DVD.

This mpeg 2 file then needs to be processed by an authoring program like DVD moviefactory or workshop. You add menus and chapter points. Tis authoring program then converts that Mpeg 2 file along with chapter information into a series of VOB and IFO files.

These VOB and IFO files are contained withing a Directory called Video_TS. usually the more chapters and menus you have the greater the VOB/ IFO files.

Dvd players read these VOB files and play your movie.

As my problem, the VOB files have to be in a certain order on the DVD-r for a player to play them.

with a computer it doesnt matter.

What i had done was made a Folder on the desktop with all the vob and Iso files.

These were all burnt to my DVD-r, but needed to burnt in a set order. The software mentioned above allowed me to burn these in a set order hence allowed me to play on player.

Intially what i was contemplating doing was converting the VOB files back to one MPEG file.

ANd then re authorising this to a DVD.

fisherman
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Joined: Dec 23 2000

Ron,

Simple way ?? This is DVD, you must be kidding

Only joking.

When you create your own DVD, there are a standard set of files, these are something like this :-

VIDEO_TS.BUP 6,144
VIDEO_TS.IFO 6,144
VTS_01_0.BUP 79,872
VTS_01_0.IFO 79,872
VTS_01_1.VOB 1,073,608,704
VTS_01_2.VOB 1,073,565,696
VTS_01_3.VOB 1,073,592,320
VTS_01_4.VOB 1,073,461,248
VTS_01_5.VOB 214,654,976

I'm sure you recognise the format. The *.IFO & *.BUP files are mandatory, but the "VOB set" can vary. This one is large (in fact it just fits a DVD-R, how lucky can I get ?)

Anyway, some people seem to experience problems burning this format (I did, using Nero 5.5.9.7, to the extent my discs would play on my PC & settop but not the PS2), so, I installed Imgtool, created an Image, and use Movie Factory to burn. Since then, never had a playback problem, Even though I was using the same media (Datawrite Classic).

The Doom9 site is excellant, full of people willing to share their knowledge.

Hope that helps some.

Paul

rongrover
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Thanks Rajuk and Fisherman. What you have written is all very helpful. I am slowly picking up on this DVD situation. What do the VTS-01 etc VOB files actually relate to. Are they just created automatically within the programme. Also does this mean that as I have asked before, that 4gb file limits I have by using win98se dont exist?

While I have got your interest I have posted a question that I would really welcome comment on about DVD+RW Disc. I have been told by the author of DVD Decrypter that all such disc MUST BE FORMATTED before they can be used not only within his programme but all times. I must admit having done that in DVD Decrypter, it did resolve the problem I was having with not being able to burn the disc after ripping it to the HD.

I would like a comment on this because I have never seen this requirement mentioned anywhere on our forums, even when a while ago there was quite some debate on the programme. Any ideas?

Thanks again Ron.

Sorry for going somewhat off subject but I think it is an important question and nobody has as yet picked up on it in my own question.

fisherman
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Ron,

I'm glad you raised the question of the 4GB limit. This is a pain in the you know what....

To do what I described might not always work, as the process can often create a single file greater than 4GB, (Image file)before then breaking it back down to files of about 1GB.

I use Windows XP (Home) with NTFS format. I have never looked back sincing upgrading from 98SE. That said, I did do my homework to make sure my hardware was compatible with XP first (especially the camcorder). I have to say, things have been a lot better since.

As for your problem with DVD+RW formatting, sorry can't help you there, as I use DVD-R (I don't even bother with -RW discs)

Paul