Advice please - LCD or CRT for field monitor?

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Paul Rossi
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I am looking for a colour field monitor for use with my JVC-DV500E.

AC/DC is obviously a must but I also want it to be a lightweight.

The Panasonic TXG10 appears to get good reviews as a TV which will do the job well for less than £300, but with LCD screen monitors getting better and cheaper, I am wondering what others out there are using.

For the right one I will pay up to around £500 but it must be lightweight.

I did had a look at the IOV show yesterday but to be honest I was a bit disappointed with the whole show. I think going to Wembley for two days spoilt me.

Any views please on monitor choice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Paul

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harlequin
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personal opinion:

i use an old jvc 9" field monitor and prefer a tube to a lcd screen for colour definition.

i've always been told that you use a b&w monitor below 6" and colour above that.

Gary MacKenzie

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Paul Rossi
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Thanks Sepulcre,

A friend has offered me his old Goodmans 9" portable TV which he used with his Panasonic S-VHS camera some years ago when he did weddings. I haven't tried it yet but I have seen a couple of Goodmans models on various web sites ranging from around 5" to 10" screen size.

Are these small CRT TVs much better than a modern equivalent LCD panel (with suitable hood fitted)?

I am concerned that the usual LCD definition of around 960 x 234 may be a bit poor. I think this equates to an equivalent of 320 x 234 pixels which is far less than the 720 x 576 of a video frame.

I really don't know how this definition would compare with a small TV. I am wanting to get a grip on good colour balance more than high definition, as I will focus using the viewfinder.

Would a lightweight LCD panel be okay for this? I am trying to keep the weight factor down as mich as possible, but if I need to carry a small fight-cased TV monitor then I will if it means higher quality and getting the job done right.

Thanks,

Paul

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David Haynes
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Paul,

You can pick up a 2nd hand Sony field monitor (9") for about 450 UKP. These are superb for field use, give instant feedback on the shot and good value. But they're not light.

I use LCD panels for our remote head cams but they are very variable. Useful for focus but color reproduction is a bit subjective - and new, they're more expensive than a 2nd hand field mon.

So if you work with a crew then I'd say go for the decent field mon (or your TV equivalent) but if you're on your own then you may have to stick with the lcd. Just spend some time getting used to the difference between what you see and what is shown on the lcd.

With a skeleton crew and minimal kit, a Sony PC100 plugged into the video out of a digi gives a good idea of colour - and they are small and light.

Much depend son how mobile you have to be and what setup/breakdown times you have on a shoot. As usual, the best solution is to get both. :) But why don't best solutions ever take account of finances...

Cheers.
David.

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i think the pictures are better from a tube than from a lcd.( certainly outdoors )
i find a lcd suffers more from sunlight than a tube , and usually field monitors have multiple adjustments , not sure about lcd's.
lcd's will of course gain from being lighter and requiring less power.

Gary MacKenzie

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Tunni
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In broadcast TV CRT is the only way...it will change, eventually but not for some time.

Now here's a reccomendation. call VFG in Wembley and ask for Kevin Oaten. He has or had a number of flight cased 9" hi res Sony portable monitors for sale.They are immaculate and should cost under £500!! The flight case's alone are £280!! New price for the monitor is around £1,500!! Just about all broadcast cameramen use this or the similar but cheaper lower res monitor

Phil

Paul Rossi
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Thanks for the replies so far.

I have e-mailed Kevin at VFG direct to ask him what he has in stock at the moment. If I could get a flight cased Sony monitor for not too much money I will be pleased.

However I am still concerned about the weight as I had spinal surgery three years ago and need to whatch what I carry very carefully.

Many thanks again for the replies so far.

Paul

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Paul Rossi
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After taking Phil's advice and contacting Kevin at VFG, I was introduced to Peter in VFG Manchester. I popped across and visited to inspect the monitors.

I am delighted to say that I am now the proud owner of an immaculate PVM-9044QM 9" monitor in a KATA carry case.

Thanks a lot Phil.

From what I have experienced of VFG they are a real professional company who do exactly what they say they will do. I for one am delighted.

Thanks for the replies, and I am still probably looking a TFT screen in the near future - but it won't be a patch on the Sony.

Paul

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