After Effects slide show

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P.Gallagher
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I seen this style done on an American Video Company web site and it pushed me into learning more about Photoshop and After Effects, so I did this for my sister who is getting married this June.

http://www.clipshack.com/Clip.aspx?key=7BE8F1224E00DB57

Paul

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JMCP
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Hi Paul,

trying to view your montage but I am finding it difficult from this clipshack site, I get no more than a couple of seconds before it pauses for a while and then another couple of seconds. I have a 2mb broadband connection so hopefully it is not a limitation of my internet set up, anyone else having problems viewing this footage ?

Cheers John

P.Gallagher
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Sorry about that John,
Its not the best site I know but I think it all depends on how busy it is, Thanks for trying.
Paul

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David L Lewis
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I just viewed it without any problems.

Have to say I loved It. Ive had a go at doing a photo montage on some pretty basic editing software and havent got past the Ken Burns effect yet.

So for a relative newbie at this paul. how long did it rtake you to learn how to do that and how long did it actualy take to do.

Having never used premiere pro or after effects what exactly is involved?

Presumable the whole thing is set up on premiere first and then after effects is used somewhere in the process but what does what?

Sorry if thats a very basic question

David L Lewis

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P.Gallagher
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The pictures were all scanned and brightened up in Photoshop then the whole thig was compiled in After effects.
From start to finish it took a good 40-50 hours, its really a learning curve but now I could do a similar project alot faster after learning it all.
Be prepared to burry hours and hours of time with it and have loads of patience.
Paul

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branny
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Nice job Paul. Especially liked the limb movements on the last few images - a heap of work that will tickle everyone - bet they couldn't even guess at the time involved!

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P.Gallagher
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No chance Branny, and if you told them how long you spent on it they wouldn't believe you anyway, its one of those projects you do for the first time out of love for this type of work and set a challenge to yourself to be able to do it.
There would be as much thought of a Ken Burns montage with some nice music over it, but as its for my sister its something different no-one else has on theirs......at the moment anyway :)
Thanks all for looking and your comments.
Paul

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JMCP
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Hi Paul,

had another shot at watching you montage again today and I'm sure glad I did, thought it was excellent, I would love to have a bash at creating something like that but, can't see me ever having the patience to complete it.

Cheers John

P.Gallagher
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Thanks for trying it again John, as I said that clipshavk site is very poor but its free, if you know of any other free sites I could use to put it on were the quality would be better plase let me know.
Thanks
Paul

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JMCP
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Hi Paul,

can you tell me if you needed After Effects Pro to be able to do this montage, also, was there a tutorial or a posting on a website that explained what needs to be done to create these effects.

Cheers John

John H Jones
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Paul,
Well done. Being familiar with Photoshop and After Effects I can appreciate the effort and hours you spent on this project.
However I would make a couple of suggestions. Namely, there was perhaps too much rotation of the photographs and too much zooming in and out at the same speed. A few snap zooms and no rotation on some images would change the pace of the show and make the events less predicatable.
To put it another way, say you were composing a piece of music, a change of key, moving from quiet to loud, or slow to fast , makes the music far more interesting.
Keep up the good work.
John

P.Gallagher
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No John,
It wouldn't matter if it was done in the pro or standard version.
I bought a book called "creatining motion graphics in after effects", this is the first time I ever used the program and I hate manuals, but this book puts it into lay mans terms and I found it very easy to follow.
Hope this helps
Paul

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JMCP
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Thanks Paul

I may have a look around for the book and see if I can have a bash at creating my own montage. Usually I just do it with the timeline in Edition but, nothing fancy.

Cheers John

P.Gallagher
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Have ago of course, I also use Liquid 6 but there is no comparison as to what you can do in Liquid compared to AE, but a word of WARNING.......be prepared to spend hours and hours in AE when you get into it.....its all good fun though and I enjoyed the learning curve to date.
Paul

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shellgrip
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"Creating Motion Graphics" is just about the best book there is for AE but it's not cheap and I'd probably recommend you play first, spend later. The AE forum on Adobe is very friendly and full of advice, as is the Creative Cow forums/tutorials. The AE manual isn't that bad either. I might even get around to re-building my own tutorial site one day :)

I love AE, use it all the time for DVD menus.

J

P.Gallagher
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I find the Cow forums don't always get it right, and allot of the time send you around in circles to do what is more simple than they explain.
Again, most tutorials are a great help but until you play about with a product everything seems daunting at first.
There is loads of forums willing to help you out best they can.
The Meyers book is expensive but in my own personal opinion was money very well spent and with the book comes a DVD with footage and projects to work through with the book, a great book and very easy to follow and understand.
Whatever you decide to do good luck and remember to enjoy the learning process with a product like AE as it is an unbelievable bit of kit.
Best
Paul

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shellgrip
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Paul, I think some of the problem with the Cow tutorials is that they don't always make it clear which version of AE the tutorial is based upon. Obviously Pro has features Standard doesn't but there were also programatical changes between the various release versions.

In my opinion one of the key things in learning AE is getting an understanding of what it can do, what it can't and the time taken to do either (if that makes sense). I've seen many people using AE when they could achieve the same results directly in Pro (or any NLE), and others where they'd do better to work in a 3D app (although of course that requires one, and knowledge of how to use it).

One thing I'm certain of, almost everyone who has AE as part of a package seriously underestimates the power and flexibility therein.

Jon

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shellgrip wrote:

One thing I'm certain of, almost everyone who has AE as part of a package seriously underestimates the power and flexibility therein.

Jon

Too true, I have only touched on the surface of what its capable of, they don't sell 15DVD's on how to use if by Total Training for nothing.
Paul

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P.Gallagher
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John H Jones wrote:
Paul,
Well done. Being familiar with Photoshop and After Effects I can appreciate the effort and hours you spent on this project.
However I would make a couple of suggestions. Namely, there was perhaps too much rotation of the photographs and too much zooming in and out at the same speed. A few snap zooms and no rotation on some images would change the pace of the show and make the events less predicatable.
To put it another way, say you were composing a piece of music, a change of key, moving from quiet to loud, or slow to fast , makes the music far more interesting.
Keep up the good work.
John

Thanks for the ideas John, it does make sense what your saying, I was trying to keep them moving to the music, but if I set up say an ease in keyframe, it effects the overall speed of the clip as I would have done it with the standard keyframes.
I should have set any certain type of keyframe as I went along, I did the opposite and set everything up THEN tried to fine tune it a bit and left it of the music beat a bit, it also changed the zoom speeds etc, but I will know for again and it turned out not to bad for my first attempt and I can only try and improve as I use the program more....I hope.
Thank you for your comments John.
Paul

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Max Robertson
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Hello, Paul.

I'm a brand new member and thought the show was GR8. The missus and I do the odd wedding video and I really like your work. I'm wife-free at the moment, but when she returns in 2 or 3 weeks we'll have gander. This will tickle her pink as we combine her stills (from her Nikon D70) and video (we both operate camcorders) in our productions and she's right into setting her stuff to music. Corny, too - she's always looking for something to get the bride's father wet-eyed!

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Max Robertson wrote:
Hello, Paul.

I'm a brand new member and thought the show was GR8. The missus and I do the odd wedding video and I really like your work. I'm wife-free at the moment, but when she returns in 2 or 3 weeks we'll have gander. This will tickle her pink as we combine her stills (from her Nikon D70) and video (we both operate camcorders) in our productions and she's right into setting her stuff to music. Corny, too - she's always looking for something to get the bride's father wet-eyed!

Thanks for taking time to look at it Max.
Paul

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ChrisG
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Brilliant 'cos it was different and that is very important me thinks. Thought I shouldn't have enjoyed but I did... if that makes sense, and yes I can appreciate the time and effort so that is also important.

Tony7
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Hi Paul I also liked your photo montage, well done.

Tony

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