Alan's report on C300

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Maheel
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Moderators, please delete this link if it violates forum rules.

I wonder why DVdoctor is late. Seems a very interesting camera.

http://blog.creativevideo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/canon_c300_alan_roberts.pdf

Maheel R Perera

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Maheel wrote:

I wonder why DVdoctor is late.

http://blog.creativevideo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/canon_c300_alan_roberts.pdf

Maheel R Perera

Explain what you mean by ''DVdoctor is late'' ?

Gary MacKenzie

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Its spam, if you ask me. he simply is advertising his website with his link.

Its the modern way to try and be subtle by getting links posted about on forums.

1 post random content slightly related and a link....

Gavin Gration
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Maheel,

Welcome to the the forum. There are some C300 threads if you do a search. I'm not sure if Alan posted a specific link to his report but I certainly knew he's mentioned testing the camera.

Speaking of links there appears to be a potential issue with your website.

See here:-

http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/dcinemanetworks.com

It might be wise to get your hosting people to check it out?

Gavin

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I do hope creative video have permission to publish Alan's report as he is always careful not to release them until the BBC and the manufacturer approve them.

Creative have published other items that were quickly removed from their site once they were pointed out as being private copy.

Maheel
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Gavin,

Thanks for the welcome. I have checked the website today and is functioning. How ever awhile ago we had an attack and it was resolved. But I doubt the no of visits appeared in mywot.com. If you have visited the site you would have found out that we are a company in Sri Lanka.

I have followed all the threads re: C300 here and in other forums also. I was waiting to see Alan's report. Thanks again for the information.

DV Ed,

It is sad to see people jump to conclusions.

harlequin

I said "late" simply because Alan is the key figure here. The main reason (not the ONLY) I visit this site is to see his reviews and overviews. So I was somewhat surprised to see his report somewhere before reading it here.

Gary,

You have answered my honest question. Thank you. I also hope they got permission to publish that report.

Unfortunately no one is discussing the "report".

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I think you will find that people like me respect Alan's reports and his opinions a great deal, I also respect that he may not be aware that it is on creative's web site and it may be that it should not be there as they have used confidential BBC information before and been told to remove it.

Once Alan has published it on his site or confirms that he is happy with it being on creatives site I am sure people will then start discussing it freely.

Maheel
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Gary,

Understand perfectly. And Thank you .

It was my first visit to the Creative Video site.

I am a life time member of Digital Cinema Society and a member of CML. Since I do not have time to visit all the internet sites, other than those two, I visit only Red User (I own a RED ONE and intend to purchase a Scarlet)), DVXUser/AF100 (I own an AF 100), ASC, DVInfo/ 3D aquisition, Roger Deakin's site and DVDoctor (because of Alan)

I visited Creative Video after watching a test video of C300 by "Mark Moreve" on Vimeo. In the comments he mentioned about Alan's report at CVP. I had to Google "Alan Robert's report C300" to find the site.

To accuse someone of promoting HIS site "Creative Video", without searching anything is outrageous.

Maheel R Perera
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Maheel wrote:

To accuse someone of promoting HIS site "Creative Video", without searching anything is outrageous.

Maheel R Perera
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Please explain exactly what you mean by that sentence ?
Who are you suggesting is in the wrong ?

Gary MacKenzie

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Maheel
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DV_Ed wrote:
Its spam, if you ask me. he simply is advertising his website with his link.

Its the modern way to try and be subtle by getting links posted about on forums.

1 post random content slightly related and a link....

1. Creative Video was NOT my site.
2. It is standard in other forums to provide the poster's web link. In CML, email and oter details also.

Maheel
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harlequin wrote:
Please explain exactly what you mean by that sentence ?
Who are you suggesting is in the wrong ?

My answer is at #4.

Maheel

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Maheel wrote:
1. Creative Video was NOT my site.
2. It is standard in other forums to provide the poster's web link. In CML, email and oter details also.

1. you had a link to your own website , that is what the original response related to.
NOT the link to the PDF.

2. you can put your website in your signature , or in the details in your profile.

However your website was being listed as one that has been compromised , with suspicious content download , by one of the main online spam trappers. @ http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/dcinemanetworks.com

Gary MacKenzie

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Hi Maheel

Thanks for posting the link to Alan's report.

It's refreshing to have a global membership on this rather UK-focussed forum.

I'm sure you'll find any jitters at spurious spam reports will dissipate quickly as this really is one of the friendliest and most helpful video forums around.

So, welcome aboard!

Dominic

PS
I had some difficulty navigating around your site just now, so it might be worth checking your hackers haven't done any more damage. D

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Regarding if CVP should have the report online or not, it's not on the BBC R&D site yet, so I suspect they may have jumped the gun there. D

Maheel
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Dominic,

Thanks for understanding.

As stated in my earlier posts I am used to forums that encourage members to include their complete name and web site just to show that they are real people. Seems it is not the practice and not welcomed here.

Re: my site. It is only the main page that has been uploaded since the hacking. Was busy with work here. But I hope that that page has some information regarding the work we were doing. (Incuding developing our own film recorder)

Thanks again.

Maheel

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Maheel wrote:
Dominic,

Thanks for understanding.

As stated in my earlier posts I am used to forums that encourage members to include their complete name and web site just to show that they are real people. Seems it is not the practice and not welcomed here.

Re: my site. It is only the main page that has been uploaded since the hacking. Was busy with work here. But I hope that that page has some information regarding the work we were doing. (Incuding developing our own film recorder)

Thanks again.

Maheel

Maheel,

You are welcome and it's OK to post your website in your signature.

The problem here was that your first & only post looked to all intents and purposes like a seeded posting to a potentially infected site. i.e. a Spammer.

Put simply you set off the alarm bells - albeit without intention.

I hope that you'll stick around and look forward to your input.

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The C300 report has been released by Canon, and they sent a copy to CVP. There's nothing secretive or odd about this, Canon want it to be read. I'll be sending a copy of it to Daniel Browning for him to put on his site today.

Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them.
Camera settings documents are held by Daniel Browning and at the EBU
My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here.
Also EBU Tech.3335 tells how to test cameras, and R.118 tells how to use the results.

MAGLINK
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Thank's for confirming that Alan and once again it is a very good report, just wish I had some pennies to buy a C300 but I suppose I may be a bit better off after the Olympics! :D

The C300 looks a very good camera if you need a large sensor film type one and the canon lenses seem very good value compared to PL.

Pricing seems good too at just under £10k plus VAT now I wonder what panasonic will be bringing to the Olympics this year? The HPX500 and 370 are now discontinued so it will be interesting to see that AVC Intra loaded camera comes next?

P.S Welcome to the forum Maheel.

Ron Spicer
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Extracted from the BVE site regarding the Earls Court Show from 14th February . . .

“BVE will provide the platform for us to show off our latest kit and will include demonstrations of the Panasonic broadcast technology that is being used in the London 2012 Olympic Games, such as DVCPROHD, the official recording format for London 2012.” commented UK Marketing Executive, Becky Green."

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Knowing the way that Olympic sponsorship is overseen, does that mean that if you try and record in any other format you'll be escorted off the premises!:D

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C300 test

Just for info, I've now tested a production model. Nothing's changed from the prototype. The revised re;port is with Canon for approval.

Incidentally, this will be the first report to be officially sanctioned by the EBU. EBU Tech.3335 and R.118 are now published, and define how cameras should be tested, and how the results can be used to categorise cameras. And, as you might have guessed, I had a very large hand in the writing of those documents. I expect the EBU to make a URL available for holding camera reports, very soon, when that happens, they'll host all of them, but I'll still keep sending them to Daniel Browning, and hope that he'll be happy to act as a mirror site for the EBU.

Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them.
Camera settings documents are held by Daniel Browning and at the EBU
My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here.
Also EBU Tech.3335 tells how to test cameras, and R.118 tells how to use the results.

Alan Roberts
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Cameras at the Olympics

I haven't seen a policy statement yet, but I'd not expect to have any problems taking any camera in, since it's a public affair. But, if you're working for the main broadcaster, then you'll have to stick to whatever rules have been published.

Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them.
Camera settings documents are held by Daniel Browning and at the EBU
My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here.
Also EBU Tech.3335 tells how to test cameras, and R.118 tells how to use the results.