blue screen in viewfinder??

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northernimage
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I hope someone can shed some light on this, I shot some footage on my Z1E the other day, wheni try to play it back I just see a blue scren , however when i do a ff or rw visual search the footage is there. but it won, t play at normal speed, subsequent tapes recoreded in the same camera with the same settings are fine, any ideas as to how i can recover the footage or is it never to be een again?. Hope someone can help.
Many thanks, Paul.

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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

It hasn't been switched from 50Hz to 60Hz (or vice versa) has it?

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DAVE M
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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

clogged head?

see if it will playback in slomo

northernimage
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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

Thanks for the replies, it won, t play in slomo, can, t see it being clogged heads as the camera recorded subsequenttapes no problem, Ive tried the tape in3 different cameras and it performs the same in each. Mooblie, how do I changefrom 50 -60hz.?
Thanks, Paul.

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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??
northernimage wrote:
.  how do I changefrom 50 -60hz.?
Thanks, Paul.

Menu>Others and scroll to the very bottom>50i/60iSEL.

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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

Paul - don' t just change it from 50<>60 Hz willy nilly.  It needs to be set to whatever it was set at when the troublesome footage was recorded.  (Probably 50Hz as you're in Europe, with a Z1E?)

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northernimage
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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

Iv tried the camera at 50 and 60 but still no joy, its very odd, the next tape from the camera (on the same shoot) is fine. As I say when I watch it on visual ff or rw the picture is there,iv tried 3 different cameras with the same result.
Thanks for all the suggestions so far,
Paul.

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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

Its definetly head clog by the sounds of the problem ,not much you can do recover it i'm afraid.

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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

Hello Paul,

We get this a lot at the college with our Canons. Happens mainly when cameras are taken from warm to cold or cold to warm places quickly. Some of the time the original camera that shot the footage will play it back but that's really rare. I agree with Chris Gill in that respect. We've never managed to recover a tape. Years ago an ITV engineer I was working with mis aligned the heads and recovered about 6 seconds in every 10. Just enough to cut the piece together as it was an aerial shot of Plymouth.

Sorry couldn't be more helpful.

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johnpr98
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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

I seem to recall a similar problem on this forum years ago which I can't find on search, it may have been suggested by LynxDV?

Can you capture the footage in fast forward playback and slow down in post?
I know this suggestion sounds daft, it may be worth an experiment on a few minutes of footage to see if it's feasible and prove I am or not talking through my hat wink

There is a similar solution at Creative Cow only it's suggesting recording the slow motion footage playback and speeding up in the editor, I note you have mentioned you can't play the footage in slomo
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/162/869473

Good luck on retrieving some usable footage even if the sound is unusable

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johnpr98
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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

I found the post at last
http://www.dvforums.com/forums/how-recover-footage-damaged-dv-tape-useful-site

My memory played a few tricks though, my defence is that it was a long ime ago LOL

The tip wasn't from Ian at LynxDV, Adam Livingstone (ex Producer BBC Newsnight) is da man

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Take a DV player that has a facility to play the tape in slow motion (eg a Sony GV - D300). Play the material into your computer in slow motion over a firewire. It won't work in anologue. Then speed up the rushes again to normal speed using an editing system such as Adobe Premiere. Voila, your rushes are back to normal.

Doesn't look like it will help you re: slow motion

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DAVE M
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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

see my post No 3!

johnpr98
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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

I had seen your post Dave and the post by Bob from November 2000 enlightened

I was trying to help Paul, no more, no less!

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Re: blue screen in viewfinder??

Just to help here the reason I believe why fast forward and slomo work is because your only viewing from 1 head on the drum not both so it will give less resolution as you will only get 1 field but better than nothing!

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