Canon XM1 instruction manual and frames???

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Richard Edwards
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Hi there,

Anyone know where i can download a Canon XM1 instruction manual (for free :rolleyes: ?)?

Also, does anyone know what fps it records its progressive scan in?

Cheers!
Richard

Dave R Smith
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I have an xm1 and manual - sorry I don't propose to scan it.

There is no mention in the manual of fps in context of 'move mode' to use their terminology (as it appears on the slide switch).

As far as I know, it will be 25 fps as usual (for UK model).
Shutter speed is of course a different question and can go down 1/16000

Richard Edwards
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Hi Dave. That's fine about scanning it!

is it definitely 25fps? I had a quick test, looked back on the LCD screen at what i recorded and it looked fairly juddery. I've been told the Sony VX2000E records at 21.5 fps in movie mode, not the full 25, and had been led to believe full 25p isn't that common at this level of camera. Is the Canon XM1 different then?

Richard

Dave R Smith
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I have sent the relevant page to your hotmail address.
Upper section of page talks about downloading stills (using this mode for playback), but lower down page is does talk of recording in 'movie mode' but doesn't elaborate.

I haven't used this camera in movie mode, so can't speak from experience.

If I was to ignore the manual, my guess would be that recording is done exactly the same, whether it's interlaced or progressive and that the switch merely enables de-interlaced viewing of stills.

The manual does warn of non-smooth' playback -but this may just be in context of the tiddly lcd.
I would suggest test filming a moving object in movie mode, then THE SAME moving object in normal mode.
May be helpful to have spoked wheel or similar for test, so that you make sure successive frames are different ( 21.5 fps theory implies frozen consecutive frames when/if exported at 25fps).
Then import the 2 tests into your NLE.
You obviously want 'movie mode' for a reason, so this will hopefully also help determine whther this camera can deliver upon your expectations and desires.

Alan Roberts
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Not 21.5, 12.5.

Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them.
Camera settings documents are held by Daniel Browning and at the EBU
My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here.
Also EBU Tech.3335 tells how to test cameras, and R.118 tells how to use the results.

tom hardwick
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Richard - the XM1 doesn't have a progressive scan mode. They do have what Canon call a frame movie mode, but there's a resolution loss that you may or may not find acceptable, and the look is supposed to be more 'film like'.

But this is nonsense. To be more film like it would have to be a lot sharper than domestic SD DV.

tom.

Richard Edwards
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Hi. Thanks for the guidance. And whoops, yes, meant to say 12.5 not 21.5. :o

Richard Edwards
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Dave, thanks for the manual page - arrived great.

Freff
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Hi Richard

Do a search for the USA equivalent of the XM1. I think it is the GL1. The manual is almost identical except for the AV in/out facility which is not available on the XM1. If you can't find it let me know and I'll try and find it on one of my backup disks.

Freff

Richard Edwards
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Hi Freff,

Good idea! Managed to bag a copy. Many thanks!

Richard

Alan Craven
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You can probably download a copy for the XM1 from Canon Australia. The only problem will probably be a watermark on each page saying "copy".