connecting 2 cameras to my macbook

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perproductions
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hi,

i want to be able to have both my Sony FX1's connected to my macbook pro to enable multi cam recording. A project has come up where we want to use ustream to broadcast and using some software called producer pro it allows multi sources.

as my macbook only has 1 firewire 800 (i think its the 800) how is it possible to get both in?

any suggestions?

Paul

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you might be able to find a FW400 expansion card that goes in an express card slot (if you have a MBP with one of those elusive luxuries - I think 17" only has it). The easy alternative is to use a traditional clapper or similar device to synch the footage in post - cheap and very easy! D

MAGLINK
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You can normally daisy chain firewire devices so maybe the camera streams will work the same way, a firewire 800 connector can be converted to two firewire 400 ports via a splitter or as said use an express port interface if you have it.

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Never seen either a camera with two Firewire ports (for daisy chaining), or a Firewire splitter - have you seen such things, Gary? I have seen Firewire hubs, but the one I had was problematical.

Martin - DVdoctor in moderation. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

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yes i know about the daisy chaining, but as mentioned my cameras only have 1 output on them.

Interested in the splitter idea? again i have not heard of them? any more info?

Dominic, the syncing in the edit is what i do now, not an issue there but i want to be able to cut live.

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If you want to cut live, why not hire a vision mixer such as a Sony Anycast (which I think has FW in and outs), and then take the feed from that to your laptop?

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MAGLINK
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Martin may be right that it can not be done, certainly haven't heard anyone doing it.

Chris may be giving the best option of using a vision mixer and doing it that way, or just record it and do a multi cam edit in FCP.

Doing live work brings in a lot more problems and I would not be happy relying on a sony firewire connection for a live video feed, it seems flaky enough just loading in from tape never mind live vision feeds or mixing, keeping it simple and composite may be a better bet but you will still need a vision mixer and a capture box.

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P.S

Hmmm just had a troll around about producer pro and most of the reports seem to say it is very poor quality and doesn't work very well. from what I have seen you also have to add on an extra plug in to use HDV so it may be that you are spending money on a heap of very low quality junk when a more simple composite set-up may give you far better results.

In addition producer pro is a USA product so I would check it even works in PAL mode, there is a demo available but I suspect it is not designed to do what you need it to do and is for desktop originated media and not live sources.

DAVE M
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I do a lot of live mixes for relay and just did one for a mate over the weekend. He was running and EX1 & 3. We considered recording a live mix as he needed to make a DVD of the event later, but he felt that for all the hassle, it's easier to bung it into FCP with Multicam and do a quick edit.

I was touting about for a new studio set up 2 years ago and one reseller offerd me the option of running a simultaneous recording set up so that in addition to running a mixer, I could have the option of recording 3 streams from the cameras to mix in post.

It may have been Boxer Systems?

I'm not aware of a simple firewire based cutting system, other than something like VIDEO TOASTER

foxvideo
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You might want to look at Newtek TriCaster. It's based on the old Toaster concept for the Amiga but has come a long way since!

Now available in HD versions with all sorts of input options (I recently acquired an older one from the classifieds on here!) Mine has Composite in & S in, there is a FW out for connecting a drive. A great bit of kit.

Dave Farrants Fox Video Editing

DAVE M
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yeah, that's the one!

I'd forgotten that it was renamed.

I only knoiw one guy who's used it, and it fell over a lot.

perproductions
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Yes, i have used a tricaster on a few projects, but the budget doesn't stretch that far!

i take the point about the mixer option, will look into that!

thanks

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perproductions wrote:
Yes, i have used a tricaster on a few projects, but the budget doesn't stretch that far!

You can hire mine......PM or em if interested. Comes with the additional USB 'T' bar control and 3 25m 'S' cables ;)

Dave Farrants Fox Video Editing