Did your vote count?

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Alan Roberts
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Yet again, I managed to keep my record clean. In 35 years of voting in elections in the UK, I've never managed to vote for anyone who's ever been elected. Roll on PR.

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Alan,

Do you do the lottery every week?

But no, my vote never counts. And it doesn't read or write either - damn these education cuts!

Pete

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No, I don't do the lottery. I'm happy to give money to charities, but not to money-grubbing big businesses if I can avoid it.

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Who also fund a lot of organisations that help up and coming film makers, so maybe not such a bad thing.

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quote:Originally posted by Alan Roberts at work:
I'm happy to give money to charities, but not to money-grubbing big businesses if I can avoid it.[/B]

I thought Charities were money-grabbing big businesses. I know a couple of poeple that run large charities, and I can tell you for nothing that after the flash company cars, huge board of directors wage's, inflated administration costs etc, that there is F*** ALL left for the poor buggers that they are supposed to be there for in the first place.

Do you know how much money LIVE AID made (you know, that Bob Geldof bloke)well they could have built New York with that money.
Have you seen any footage of those starving people recentley, guiss what, they are still F*****G starving, were did the money go? Wake up and smell the coffee.

F**K charities, I will never give money to those arsholes.

Just to prove that I am not a heartless git. I will always give the Big Issue guys a pound and not even take a paper off them. This way I can see the money going straight into some lesser person's pocket.

red
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The Big Issue is a well run business.

The guy that owns it is millionaire and at the moment is trying to crack America.

If he succeeds he will be a billionaire.

Red.

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quote:Originally posted by Alan Roberts:
Yet again, I managed to keep my record clean. In 35 years of voting in elections in the UK, I've never managed to vote for anyone who's ever been elected. Role on PR.

Well I've kept my record clean aswell in the 15 years that I have been eligable to vote I have yet to do so, and by the looks of the figures 41% of the population has gotten the message too, basically no matter what party gets elected it's all the same, they promise the earth and deliver nothing, hopefully the politicians will start to get the message or maybe it will take another 20-30% of the population to stop voting to make them see the light.

Then again maybe not.

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Lui

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Lucky you don't live in some other parts of the world. Then you would realise how precious, and lucky you have the option.

We don't realise how important something is until we lose it.

Also just think if you and the other 41% had voted, you could change what your complaing about, but it's easier to do nothing.

Mick

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I've only been voting about 17 years and I was horrified with myself the one time I didn't manage to vote. I think life is better now than under the Tories, but Labour ain't that different so I wonder if things were on the change anyway. But there's still a l-o-n-g way to go.

I totally agree about how lucky we are that we all have the right to vote, it wasn't so very long ago that women couldn't.

I live in a nice "safe" Tory area with a LibDem Council. Labour and Others don't really get a look in BUT I still vote with my heart & gut, i.e. Green Party, even though they've little chance of getting in and would probably fcuk things right up if they did!

I couldn't live with myself any other way. There are some trite New-Age Bunny-Worshipper sayings that fit here, something about Many Drops... & The First Step... but its all b locks really.

"King eh? Well, I didn't vote for him!"

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quote:Originally posted by Alan Roberts:
Yet again, I managed to keep my record clean. In 35 years of voting in elections in the UK, I've never managed to vote for anyone who's ever been elected. Role on PR.

Every vote I’ve cast for the last 20 years has been a vote for the local mp who is in office.

Then again I live in an area that has a major preference for the Local Party and a ‘dislike’ of the 'Conservatives' ( except the local farmers ) so I know my vote gives me the best candidate in office.

Now all we have to do is wait and see what wonderful new ideas they can all come up with …….

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quote:Originally posted by Alan Roberts:
Yet again, I managed to keep my record clean. In 35 years of voting in elections in the UK, I've never managed to vote for anyone who's ever been elected. Roll on PR.

Snap. Though this time "my" candidate missed out by 296 votes Even tactical voting doesn't work!!

regards

Les

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I think I have only seen my choice elected once in 30 years of voting. I agree with Alan that PR would be a much fairer system, and might just persuade the other 40% that it was not a waste of time to vote. I know that the established parties don't like the idea because it would spawn all sorts of minority parties, and make political life more difficult, but politics shouldn't be for the convenience of polititians. It should represent ALL voters, not just the winners.

Paul

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Bob Aldis
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Not going out to vote will never give "them" the idea. They will just interpret it the way they want. If instead of not going out, they were to spoil their paper with a slogan,(mine was "no Socialist candidate") then they would get the message.
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Keitht
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quote:Originally posted by Morse:

Just to prove that I am not a heartless git. I will always give the Big Issue guys a pound and not even take a paper off them. This way I can see the money going straight into some lesser person's pocket.

What do you mean 'not a heartless git'?. The Big Issue is £1.20 now !!!

Regards Keith

Peter Golden
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I am vaguely middle class, and 43, and have only ever voted tory in my life. I am also a europhile, and as such, am therefore dis-enfranchised.
I take The Times, read all the political articles, studied the subject (together with philosophy at U.E.A. Norwich) and resent any suggestions that those of us who made a concious decision that there was no safe party with which to entrust their vote, have in some way, renaged on our democratic duties. As Lui said earlier, a 41% abstension
is a very powerful statement.

I didn't vote in '97 nor in '01; but as one of the few who stayed up through the night to watch ALL the results, accusations of indifference are way off the mark.

Btw, for all of you who are assailed by the dopes who say "But what if everyone did the same thing?" The answer is they never ever ever have done, and never ever ever will. The statistical chances of your vote swinging ANY election are far far far smaller than winning the lottery, and whether you vote or not, will, within the bounds of statistical probability, never impound upon any election bigger than 'who is to collect the tea and milk money this week.'

this is not cynicism, I admire the whole principle of democracy; but chaps, lets get real.

Sorry, that should read, The chances of any one vote swinging an election........etc

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Keitht: "...and not even take a paper off them..."

Martin - DVdoctor in moderation. Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

Bob Aldis
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Peter
while I have no objections to your not voting tory, you do know that Tony Blair is counting your vote as another satisfied customer?
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Peter Golden
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He would be foolish, so to do.

tim.callaghan
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Good England!

Bob Aldis
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Foolish he may be, but all he wants is a mandate.

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