Does anyone use Bryce 5 animation s/w

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JMCP
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Hi,
just wondering if anyone uses Bryce 5 animation software could answer a question or 2 for me.

Q1. Can you create moving animations rather than a 3d image of a scene and can you export your animation as an avi ?

Q2. Can you import other graphics ie people, animals etc.. into your scene and if so is there a website with downloads ?

Cheers John

JMCP
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Hi,
I think I can answer my own question's as I have just done a more comprehensive search on google. If anyone here does use it I wouldn't mind getting their opinion of it.

Cheers John

mbridge
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The answer to both your questions is yes, Bryce will render AVI's but will take a very long time doing so. You can also import objects from other 3D packages, such as Poser.

It's been awhile since I've used it but it's very easy to use, and I can recommend "Real World Bryce 4" by Susan Kitchens & Victor Gavenda. This book really got me up and running with Bryce.

HTH
Martin

JMCP
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Hi Martin,

thanks for the info especially the bit about it being "very easy to use" ;)

Before I go ahead and buy it perhaps you can tell me if I am on the right track with what I am looking for from it. I am wanting to model a section of my local landscape ie hills,trees etc.. and to add/show Bronze age man remains and even some animation of Bronze age man going about his daily life. I am also looking to do the same with the Roman settlement remains from around here.

This is not to be a massive animation, just a few 10/15 second clips. Is this the correct software package or am I completely off on the wrong direction.

Cheers John

mbridge
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John

Bryce will certainly do this relatively easily. I guess it would be eaiser to do this in Bryce than in a traditional 3D package, but you could probably get better results using a traditional 3D package.

Martin

Videoman
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Hi

I think you will be very hard pushed to model Bronze Age man in Bryce. Bryce was originally designed to make land/sea/sky scapes which it does very well and relatively easily. The easiest application I have used for figures is Poser, comes with many different figures, predefined animations and a walk designer. You could try 3dMax with Character studio plugin , but very expensive and a steep learning curve.

HTH

Frank

mbridge
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Frank is right, you wouldn't be able to model people in Bryce, and he's right suggesting Poser, which will easily let you create people and animals. You can import these into Bryce. Poser won't produce photo realistic results though, the Guardian newspaper had some figures created in Poser on the cover of the G2 section yesterday.

Videoman
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Poser with a little care .....

Its not the Stone age but..

Frank

JMCP
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Guys,

thanks for the info. Frank, forgive my ignorance but is that a still from an animation or is it just a still (or have I just asked a stupid question). If that is a still from an animation that you have done then I am definetly going to have to get Poser as your picture looks awesome. I am a complete novice at animation so I guess I am going to have a steep learning curve educating myself on the basics and learning the software when I get round to buying it.

I just checked out the price of Poser on Amazon and it has version 4.03 at £130 and version 5 at £375. Is there much difference for a beginner between the two versions ? I was pleasantly surprised at the price of Bryce 5, just £91 on Amazon especially since I saw it at PC world last weekend for £90 and when I took it to the checkout the price came through as £180 and the shop manager refused to give it to me for the £90 as the price had been written using a biro, anyway that's another story.

Cheers John

Videoman
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Like to take the credit for the pic ... but no its not one of mine. Its from a tutorial on post work using photoshop with poser figures. http://www.dalinise.net . Another site worth checking out www.renderosity.com lots of tutorials and free stuff there. www.daz3d.com pretty good too. There is really loads of stuff out there for poser fans,try a search on google.com for more.
HTH
Frank

JMCP
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Hi Frank,

thanks for the info.

Cheers john

Videoman
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Amazon special offer..... see here
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006IXA4/104-3061844-4229521

cheers

Frank

JMCP
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Hi Frank,
thanks for the link. I tried to buy it but they refused to send it to an address outside the USA. I may pursue getting it sent to someone in the USA and ask them to post it to me.

Cheers John

Videoman
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Thats funny... used to get books from the US no bother.

Frank

Videoman
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John

Take a look at this site if you are still interested in figure animation. Few tutorials there aswell...
http://home.clara.net/geralday/newsite/index.htm

Cheers

rank

JMCP
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Frank,

thanks for the info, I will spend some time over the weekend on it as it looks interesting, especially for the novice like me.

Cheers John

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I've been trying to import Poser 4 characters into Bryce 5, with no luck. The best I can manage is the characters turning bizarre colours, that then need changing, limb by limb. What am I doing wrong?

Bryce 5 does take ages to render. I actually used to use 4, but got 5 when I heard it had this network rendering. I assumed, wrongly, that if they'd managed to make it use PC's on a network to render faster, they'd at least have made it support dual processors. As it happened, it didn't support my dual Athlon MP's, and rendering using that and my slower PC on a network, actually made it SLOWER. Admittedly, the other PC is P3 450mhz though.

My other complaint is that they've still not got it to render animations in DV format. I have to render an uncompressed AVI file, then render into DV using Premiere.

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Dangerously
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Cheers chief. I'll give it a blast.

Whilst on the subject of Bryce 5. I'm very keen on getting some Battlestar Galactica models, for use in Bryce.

I've managed to find some nice models for 3D Studio Max here.
http://www.3dgladiators.com/

But they're all in .max format, which I believe is a project file, and not a 3DS model, which is a .3ds file, which Bryce will support. Bryce won't take .max files, so i'm a bit stuck. What I need to do is take the 3DS model from the project file.

My Bryce won't accept the lightwave formats either. I just get an error message.

I did manage to get the Truespace model to work, but I wasn't too impressed with how it turned out. No textures for a start.

Any ideas.

Cheers again.