Hi all
I have a problem with encore with has me stumped. I use PPro and export an avi and import that into encore. Then I create an .iso file in encore and then burn that with Imgburn. To date no problems with even over 2 hour timelines. I have on occassions then copied the DVD in my duplicator again without problems. The duplicator has an acard controller and pioneer drives. My PC is a DVC unit which has worked fine for a year now.
Now suddenly encore seems to be transcoding OK using automatic and the iso file is coming out at about 4.4gb but the burn rings are very close to the egde of the disc and when I try to duplicate I get an overburn by approx 365mb message on my duplicator. This prevents copying.
I am as far as I can tell using automatic transcode in encore. Now here is the strange bit. Previous DVD's I have successfully duplicated were created from slighlty larger iso files and if placed into the duplicator don't cause a error message.
I must get this project done today ( why is it always like this !! )
I have tried in desperation setting the DVD size smaller in the custom box to try to fool encore but all that happens is the burn still goes virtually to the edge of the DVD and the overburn value changes slightly.
The DVD plays OK in a DVD player but I will need quite a few copies which rules out one at a time.
I realise that something may be wrong with the tower but it works fine with previously made dvd's.
Any suggestions or solutions so I can make a disc that I can duplicate gratefully received.
Regards
Peter
Can you duplicate the DVD using the PC's DVD burner rather than your duplicator. I have duplicated a DVD in the past using Nero and the copy's burn doesn't appear so close to the edge. This might produce a new master that your duplicator would more acceptable,
John
John D johnross93.freeserve.co.uk
Can you duplicate the DVD using the PC's DVD burner rather than your duplicator. I have duplicated a DVD in the past using Nero and the copy's burn doesn't appear so close to the edge. This might produce a new master that your duplicator would more acceptable,
John
Hi
Yes that might just work. I have just done another burn after using DVDshrink to drop the iso file down in size and I still get the same error -368mb in the duplicator. The videoTS folder for this dvd in Windows explorer indicates 4.1gb. The duplicator still accepts another DVD with 4.2gb video TS folder. Its baffling me.
I am just wodering if there some sort of setting in the duplicator menu. Going to have a look now to see if I can find a manual. Or could it be down to different DVD manufacturers ??
Hi Peter,
From what you say, larger iso's don't produce this problem, so I reckon that means its not a problem/change within encore.
Personally I try to leave a margin of 5-10% as I believe some DVD's either don't have quite the same capacity as others and that the disc edge is more prone to playback problems.
I don't know what overburn is - haven't had it - not sure if it means you are beyond defined dvd capacity, or beyond limit with margin allowance - I am assuming it's the latter.
I'm guessing your 2 hr jobs will be borderline overburn and perhaps a different make/version of dvd has just tipped the scales.
Encore:
I believe 'automatic', just means the transcode is done when you build the dvd (rather than manually invoking as seperate earlier step), but you still have various bitrate and cbr/vbr options which you may have changed since your last large burn?
HTH
Overburn is a term used in the manual for the tower but it doesn't make it clear what it is. I am assuming that the problem is to much data or not enough space as the display has -365mb and the master drive seems to be moving repetitively across the disc. But surely if there is only 4.1gb in the iso file it should fit easily.
What I cannot get my head round is the tower still accepts earlier dvd's that have more data on them. As you say I am using a different make and that somehow may make a difference.
I wish I could say I had changed a bitrate or setting within encore but as it worked out of the box I have never touched anything as far as I know. On that point I wonder if there is a reset to defaults within encore ?
It still is so odd that the tower rejects a disc with less data on it. I am going to have a look into the settings on the tower to see what I can find.
I follow and agree with your logic.
Maybe create a folder on the HD instead of iso for sheer hell of it, to see if subsequent burn throws similar wobbly?
Donkey question.. or straw clutching:
Is duplicator set up for CD.
With CD typically having 700mb capacity and vob files typically 1 gig each, that's 300mb too much to copy first vob. 300mb ain't too different to the reported 365mb???
In encore, have you used the option to add other additional files apart from the video/audio stuff.?
Have you used other language audio tracks, requiring seperate audio_ts folder and files?
I have always assumed that the duplicator knows its a DVD and I have never copied a CD in it anyway. This is I presume confirmed when I put an earlier dvd in and the display reads 4350mb or something like that.
Regarding encore I just have one timeline 15 chapter points and 4 menu's with one audio. Nothing else.
Out of ideas now. As we discussed it's worth trying another make of DVD - or different spec of same m/f, but your deadline is today so i guess your stuck with burning without duplicator.
Try re-booting duplicator...totally out of straws now.
Think I have found a reason but not what you might call an answer. I copied a disc burnt previously onto a new one. All copied OK. But then if that disc is put in as the master to copy from up comes the fault. So I am going to get some new discs tomorrow morning first thing from another supplier and get the job done just a day late. I hope......
Thanks for the suggestions - much appreciated.
Interesting side thought - at least nobody could copy these discs themselves !!
peter