Fuji Finepix Problem

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Fergie
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My Finepix S304 is not being recognized by the computer and, when changing the batteries, I have to keep reinstalling the correct date.
Is there an internal battery that might need changed. It has never been run from a mains supply so could it just be that the internal battery (if there is one) has run down

               
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I've got a battered old Finepix A303 with the same problem. I've tried searching the Fuji site as well as Google for independent information, but have not been able to unearth anything. It must surely be an internal battery.
This camera is ancient and very basic in digital camera terms, but still works well enough for what I need (or can afford!). It is annoying to lose the date and time every time the batteries are changed, so if you find out before I do Fergie, please let me know! Unless that is, anyone here can shed light on the solution.
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Like you Rick, I can't find any mention of an internal battery anywhere but I agree that there must be one in there somewhere. I am wondering if iI should leave it plugged into a mains addaptor to see if that would recharge the internal battery. I've had video cameras that needed that treatment every now and again so maybe it will cure my S304.

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I was about to connect a 6volt mains transformer to my S304 when I noticed that the DC input is for 5 volts.
As the camera uses four AA batteries with an output of 6 volts, should I be safe in going ahead with the 6 volt mains connection?

Anyone have any thoughts on this.

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Hi, I had the same problem with my camera, I have tried everything but recently a friend of mine referred me to a great tech support site that help you deal with this issues. Fix it yourself kind of forum. I am sure you will find some solutions there.

Here is the page for Fuji FinePix S304 Support

Hope it will help,

Grace

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Thanks for that Grace.

I have posted the problem there in the hope that someone will come up with the answer.
Noticed though that the site doesn't seem to have been used since June of last year but I will keep my fingers crossed.

Would you care to say just how you managed to fix the date/time problem in your own camera.

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I was surprise that you mention that the site haven't been used. I am using it all the time. If you really want fast personal help click on the live chat and get your answer immediately.

I am not an expert and I don't want to get you the wrong solution. But actually in the end I used a transformer, In the live support he told me exactly which one to buy. This is why I would rather you talk with an expert and not my advice... maybe we don't have exactly the same problem.

Good luck and I hope you will find a solution fast...

Grace

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Hello Fergie,
You may remember that I had exactly the same problem with my Fuji A303. However, it is of no more concern to me as the camera was stolen while on holiday last year. I was so pleased with the results that little camera gave that I have since replaced it with Fuji F11. The low light properties of the "F" series Fuji's is amazing. Models change every other day it seems, but there are some great deals to be had on the F30 and F31fd. The latest release, the F40fd is a 8mp chipped compact that takes great pictures in good light as while not quite as good as the F30/31fd in lowlight, still knocks the competition for six.

I purchased the F40fd for my mother, who celebrated her 80th birthday this year. The interface is relatively straight forward and intuitive. The face technology is very clever (so long as the subjects are looking at the camera), and the casing has been slimmed down. Battery cpacity is good at 300 images per charge and the results look very good.
Here is where I got mine from: http://www.purelygadgets.co.uk

I am very pleased with my F11 that has partial manual control as does the F30/31fd.

Rick.

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Sorry Grace but the latest reference I can find to the S304 is dated Jun 24, 2006. I have taken your advice though and posted the problem in the live section. I will wait and see if there is any response.

Rick... Yes I remember you having a similar problem and sorry to hear that your camera was stolen. That happened to me many years ago (18 years ago it was and I now wish I hadn't thought of that) and I still feel very annoyed about it.
I bought my wife (me :o ) a small Fuji A600 and a grand little camera it is. Better than the S304 indoors and in low light and it seems to have a much stronger flash. I do however still like using the S304 as it feels much more comfortable in my hand but mainly because of the much better lens and zoom. Having said that though, the 6.3mp of the A600 can produce some really clear and sharp images. So much so, that a few of the shots that I had taken with the S304 I have re-taken with the A600 to give better print at A4 size. I am at the moment waiting for some sunshine (at the right time) to go and take a photo of a cliff face over a loch. It's only about four miles away but here in Scotland you can leave the house in brilliant sunshine and four miles further away find yourself in a torential downpour.

I'm begining to blether a bit.

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Got it.
The sun and I both arrived at the same time on my fourth attempt

               
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rbarry
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What a beautiful place. Is this a cropped image or have you stitched a few frames together to make a panoramic?

Alan Roberts
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6v should be fine. Fresh alkalines make about 1.6 volts so you get around 6.4 volts from 4 of them, but they'll slide down to probably about 1 volt each (maybe less) before the camera stops working at, say, 4 volts. External power supplies are generally a bit wooly when defining the actual voltage, I've got some that state "12volts" that actually make 17 volts until they're on load, when they drop to under 11 volts, this is because they're genrally simple circuits and not well stabilised.

As far as the camera fault's concerned, I'd guess that there's no actual sustaining battery inside. Instead, I guess they have a large value capacitor that is kept charged when batteries are in and trickle-feeds the clock circuit. Seeing how little power a clock circuit needs (my Seiko mechanical watch needs it's battery changing about every 6 years), the capacitor needn't be very big, so it's all very tenable. If that capacitor fails, you lose the time/date whenever you change the batteries. It's unlikely to be a service part, but you never know.

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The loch is called North Third and the image is the result of merging together five separate photos. The photo has been on my mind for years, for no other reason than always being fascinated by the view.
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Alan... As I have never been able to find any mention of an internal battery, your capacitor idea is probably correct and a repair is likely to be totally uneconomical. I will just have to keep setting the date and time every time I change the batteries. It's a bit of a bummer though when after changing the batteries and resetting the date etc. the freshly installed batteries go flat after only taking a couple or three photos.

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Yikes, what are the batteries? My nice little Sony DSC-T1 runs for about 90 minutes on a charge. I guess you're using elderly rechargable NiCads, they really do die, if that's so then you should move on to NiMh or dry cells, they'll last a lot longer.

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It takes four AA batteries and it is not all that uncommon to load batteries and have the camera switch itself off because one off the batteries is faulty. I still use NiCads but any new batteries that I buy are Ni-MH. I find them much more reliable and longer lasting.

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Fergie,

you might want to try lithium ion AA's, they cost approx £4.40 for 4 but, they last approx 7 times longer than normal AA's. I have had mine in my DSLR for over 1000 shots now and it is still showing as a full charge. It is also thought that using batteries like these helps with focus speed etc...

Cheers John

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Certainly, using batteries with a higher discharge rate will help the camera in many ways. If your batteries are lasting only a few shots, then they're already dead, throw them away. If you can find LiOn AAs, then that's what you should get. But, in the meantime, surely you could just use a set of ordinary dry cells?

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John. Thanks for that pointer, I hadn't realised that lithium ion batteries were so superior. I will certainly aquire some.

Alan. It goes without saying that any dud batteries are binned. I have been replacing NiCads with NiMH but I will now take John's suggested route and get some lithium ion ASAP.
I do usually/often carry some dry cell batteries as back up.

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LiOns are vastly superior, that's why they're the power source of choice in camcorders.

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Which yet again proves the old adage that 'You learn something new every day'

Do they require specialised chargers ?

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Been looking through some catalogues and can find no sign of AA sized lithium Ion batteries.

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Fergie,

have a look here. John Lewis also stock them in their Glasgow store but they are a bit more expensive at about £6.50.

http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cat=3&type=3020&man=20&filterwords=&go=SEARCH&comp=

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Thanks John. I checked that web site for the 7dayshop and it didn't mention 'rechargeable'

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Fergie,

the AA Lithium-ion batteries that I use are NOT rechargeable. As I was saying earlier, I have been using mines for over 1000 shots in the past 7-8 months, plenty of picture reviewing, zooming, some with built-in flash although not a lot and they are still showing as having a full charge.

If you take many thousands of shots per year, then getting rechargeables will no doubt be worthwhile but, if you only take 1 or 2 thousand per year then I would recommend these, mainly for the fact that you are not always having to worry about your batteries going done on you at any moment. This all depends on how efficient that your Fuji is with its power usage, I can't imagine it being more demanding that a DSLR but, I can't be sure.

Cheers John

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Thanks again for the info John. You have sold me on the idea of buying Energiser Lithium. Jessops have them at £4.99 for a pack of four so I will nip into their Stirling shop tomorrow for a couple of packs, enough to power both of my cameras.

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I actually purchased my DSLR from there, it was a very good deal, well pleased with it.

Cheers John

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I have a Fuji S5500 and I've just ordered some of the above in the hope it will be ready to use whenever I need it because the NiMh rechargeables always go flat when left in the camera (is that normal?) are you safe to leave the Lithium ones in or is it best to take them out?
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Mick,

I've not taken my batteries out of my camera since I bought them.

Cheers John

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Glad you said that John. Mick's posting had me wondering whether it would be best to leave them in or remove them.

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NiMh will go flat wherever they are, you can expect a full charge to stay there for only about 4 weeks. But at least they don't suffer from the dreaded memory problem in NiCad, where they tend to forget what capacity they're supposed to have unless they're fully discharged from time to time.

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Just an update.
Put two of the Lithium batteries into the Fuji A600 as we set of for a week in Germany where I took about 80+ photographs. took numerous shots (30ish ?) after returning home. Then it was of to Ireland for a week wher I took 93 photos.
All with the same two batteries still installed. Great when you consider all the times the LCD screen was used to preview the shots and the batteries were used to power the camera while a load of shots were uploaded to my son's computer.

Yep. I'm very pleased with them.

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Have returned from a weekend break with 32 photos of the grand children etc. batteries are still going strong.

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Jessops are now only £4.49 for the pack of 4 batteries. I bought another packet when I was on holiday just incase mines ran out but they didn't, now over 1200 pictures with a DSLR and the same set of batteries, superb.

Cheers John