I want to put a video on my web page

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Dee
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hello guys

I have searched under "Quick Time" on the Streaming Video threads of forum, so if I have missed something please point me in the right direction, and tell me to look harder..

I'm new to creating web pages, but as part of my learning curve, I am trying to put a short (or long) video on my page.

I'm guessing QT is a good option as in the examples shown on this site www.yachtpangaea.com (thanks Paul) are similar to what I want to achieve. Paul, you I believe are a Mac man, so I dont know if you can help a layman runing win2000 pro Dv500 & premier 6.5 with limited web creation resource. but any help is very welcome.

do I just include the link to my page, as I have done with gif's?

if so how do I prevent downloads (as in the example)

thanks in advance
Dee

PaulD
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Hi
Thanks for the plug!
Here's the Apple page with full HTML instructions
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/authoring/embed.html

Dont worry! Here is the nub of the code:

Where mymovie is the path/name of your file, and 320x256 is the size - adding 16 for the control bar.
Its complicated because QT movies play under ActiveX in Windows, and under Quicktime in Apple browsers....
Regards

I use Cleaner, which is cross-platform, but the Quicktime Pro upgrade (Mac or PC) allows Export of AVIs to Sorenson Codeccompressed files like my movies (give or take)

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Dee
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ooops....

Knew it wouldnt be that easy....

Thanks Paul... I'll re try tomorrow after trying to work out the error message....

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Dee
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hi Paul

"The data that the plugin requested, did not download successfully"

went through the apple pages to see if I had done something wrong, and all I could find was a reference to including the line(s) of code you gave me. The "Ask HTML expert" link on the site is not working...

any ideas please?

PaulD
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Hi Dee
Great. The Quicktime works fine, up to a point - the controller isnt showing (it should from the code =I'll check further)....
In the Widows ActiveX code there's still a VALUE=mymovie left in which needs changing (everything has to be entered twice - for Active X and for QT).

The way you stop people saving your movies after downloading is to use either Cleaner for the encode or an Apple freebee called 'Plug-in Helper' which appears to be available for Windows as well as Mac. There's a 'Disable saving' check-box when Exporting. You find it here:
http://developer.apple.com/quicktime/quicktimeintro/tools/index.html
Regards

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Dee
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sorry Paul

I feel I'm being a pest now - cant find where I would make the ActiveX controls

PaulD
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Hi
No problem. In the last section of you site (starting 'OBJECT') there is still a VALUE="mymovie.mov" left unchanged - it should be VALUE="LogoSpinTest.mov", like the later section of the code.

The Controller isnt visible because you have Saved your movie to 'Play at Double Size'. If the movie was playing at normal size then the Controller is visible.
Regards

Dee
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Paul - you genius!!!!!

it worked - not an impressive test but a start!!! need to add the play bar etc

after that, and when I've mastered he positioning, protection etc I will have to try to optimize settings for a longer movie

Thanks a million!
Dee

Dee
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ok I give up......

I managed to work out the file structure - dont laugh (that took me 6 hours) and even now, although I have put "images" in the "image" folders and linked the index file to that folder by using "/image/....." in the "src" line - I fluked it - how on earth do I reference a file in the root folder from an "index" file in its own folder "/movies" for example??!!! - anyway - thats not what I've "given up" on (although I have)... its this -->

..Paul, thanks for your help on all of the above and previous posts its got me as far as I am today..

aesthetics, speed and user friendliness aside... I have managed to get a video that shows on www.blufindivers.com

It is slow to download due to its size, but it caches which is usefull, so download once (where does it cache to? - it cant be copied from the cache can it?)

I am stuck ("given up") as follows:

1/ HOW DO I MOVE THE BL@@DY THING?!!!!!! to the middle, up or down - I dont care - I just want to be able to move it......

2/The quality isnt at all as good as the DV - this is obviously a 'given' for the web compression, but the transitions are awfully blocky arent they! Pauls splendid example (link in previous post above) doesnt have this. Where am I going wrong here please?

as always
Thanks in advance

Dee

PaulD
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Hi Dee
I dont use a slash in front of a folder if its directly alongside the file linking to it - you're making it an 'absolute' URL rather than a 'relative' one - Windows is tolerant of this but Unix/Mac machines aren't, so it can cause problems.
To go back a level you start the URL with ../, and to go back 2 levels .../
It is normal practice to put the index.htm file in the top level of your site, and all other content either alongside or below (in folders).

To keep things in specific places on the screen (ie in the middle) you can either use simple HTML - there is an align="center" tag to put an image centrally on the screen, and other similar simple tags, or for full layout control you use Tables (or Layers). To use tables you need to learn HTML - or use a program like Dreamweaver or GoLive or PageMill etc to write the table code for you......

My transitions look better because I use Discreet's Cleaner 5, and the Pro Upgrade to the Sorenson codec, which takes about 3 hours to encode each of my short movies (using 2-pass VBR)
Regards

I've edited this post slightly, for accuracy!

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Dee
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Thanks Paul - agreat help as usual!

looks like I will need to learn something of HTML.... I am trying to get a licence from the office for Dreamweaver, as I just volunteered to look after the corp web site... d'oh! Now I'm on ftp though, the firewall here in the office prevents me from playing with the settings to learn more about the positioning...

I have the bundled version of cleaner 5 which came with Premiere 6.0. I checked out Discreets site for an upgrade, and nearly fell over at the price.... I'll live with the dodgy transitions I think.....

many thanks
Dee

penridge
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Hi Dee, If anyone is still looking at this one I wondered how you got on. We've put a little movie on our web site http://www.penridge.com and we put two links, low band and high band. This is basically for either dial up or broadband users. Take a look.
However I find movies useless for dial up use. For instance I notice that I'm only connected at 33 kbps at the moment. Useless. By the way we duplicated the video "Shooting For The Web" for Sony Broadcast. I've got a feeling it's a free product if you ask your Sony rep for a copy. We did thousands for each country in different languages and formats so they should have a few!

johnpr98
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Jamie

Back to the drawing board as there's no video working for me 12:51. (very fast work connection).

I don't have time to check through your product prices at the moment!! :eek:

Do you advertise in CV?

johnpr98
 
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Dee
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wow old post - sorry Jamie - havent been on this one for a while!

errr... not sure what you need, and cant see your output.. I havent done any video work for a while, but from my limited web exprience - Quick time is the way to go with a progressive download - makes slow connections easier to work with.