Given the news about CV and the thread relating to it. I'd like to understand if there is a genuine opportunity for the team to start an on-line "publication" to fill the gap in the market that CV's demise will make.
Don't reply on the basis of feeling sorry for the team. It is important that we reflect a true consensus of opinion.
So the question;
Would you subscribe to an online publication in the arena of CV?
Discuss...........Neil
Yes.
Yes.
Certainly!
yes
sure
Definitely.
Consider Byte magazine, which appears to have had a successful transition from paper based mag to on-line mag. The magazine is admittedly smaller, but then so is the subscription fee!
Dave
Yes.
Alan
I suppose I'm not allowed to vote
Nor Lisa or Hugo or Adam.
;)
Bob C
Yes.
This type of subscripition is popular with a number of photography online publications. I subscribe to two at present both costing I think $75.00 per year. Both sites are US based.
Regards
John
Yes 
Originally posted by John Lawton:
Yes.This type of subscripition is popular with a number of photography online publications. I subscribe to two at present both costing I think $75.00 per year. Both sites are US based.
Regards
John
And they are????
Bob C
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes, I don't know what I'll do without CV
Most definately Yes!
Yes!
I can only say maybe, and only if it were much cheaper than the current magazine subscription (ducks for cover).
I can't easily put my feelings into words, but there's something to be said for 'owning' an actual physical copy of the magazine. If I can work out what I'm trying to say, I'll post again. :confused:
Yes - with quality and content of DV mag I would have no hesitation.
Yes
There's never been a better time with good UK Broadband availablity & pricing.
The printing costs & wholesaler slice will be out of the window + online content will be searchable.
Go for it Bob
Yes, as I intimated here just under a month ago:
http://www.dvdoctor.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=013541#000013
If you're in need of investors....you could always ask!
Count me in....I would happily do what I could.
Oh, yes....
Count me in.
I subscribe to the on-line version of Practical Electronics; although British it is hosted in USA and priced in USD, about $10 if I recall correctly.
Alan.
It is still a bit early to determine exactly what will happen. One point that I do think needs mentioning expecially when people look at other web sites etc etc, is the unquestionable editorial contribition that Bob and his team have been able to deliver. Right from day one of my dealings with the magazine it was absolutely apparent that it was not the Mag, not who's the publisher, graphic designer or the printer or the distributer, but who the editor is that makes all the difference. Just as having a word processing program does not a successful author make, having a site does not guarantee the quality that we have all come to expect from Bob.
I have been committed to this project from day one, and will continue to be so.
John Ferrick
Count me in.
Count me in - I'd pay up to the printed mag costs.
Lots of "specialist" magazines seem to survive wia the web (if you know what I mean!)
One condition - adverts yes,
--but certain people NO (we know who they are)
To the original question a simple yes.
W ant to echo John Ferrick's comments; it's not the mag itself that attracts me, it's Bob and the team's approach to the subjects. I'm up for whatever we have to do to keep that intergrity going.
Yes
oh yeah!
Yes
Yes
Des Edmonds
The posting I was replying to has been deleted, so I tried to delete my reply, but thye delete option seems to have goen away :confused:
John Ferrick is of course absolutely right.
the backbone and success of Computer Video magazine was Crabtree's personal commitment and integrity.
coupled with an unwavering understanding that fundamentally it's the reader, as opposed to the advertiser, who is the customer.
i've not met a magazine Editor, before or since, who's been a professional inspiration to me on so many levels.
Originally posted by DAVE M:
One condition - adverts yes,
--but certain people NO (we know who they are)
indeed - fear not... :cool:
HEXUS.swankyDynamicSignature - Give it a click!
Dave M - can't think who you're thinking of!!!
;)
Bob C
Yes in answer to your original question, I would certainly support the idea Jos
Yes 
Carl
Me too
Tibor
YES
Hi
Yes please to the original question.
Peter..
Yes
Yep!
(but to the honest the price would have to be sensible for a non-profesional)
Yes without a doubt.
The mags sad demise will leave a lot of us without an informative read each month and anything that can be done to inform and educate those of us with limited knowledge but boundless enthusiasm cannot be a bad thing.
I'd support it
Rick.
Yes,
Presumably the price should be less than a paper magazine. Informative adverts would be ok so long as they don't do anything sneaky to my computer. Also don't use anything like pop ups that, however benign, are blocked by security software unless specifically let through.
One advantage would be the accumulation of a searchable archive. I think this should only be available to subscribers by password.
I would still like to read the mag once a month or so without having to be online (how many of us read the paper mag in bed, in the car, on the train etc). Perhaps each month's content could be bundled for downloading - or just kept in one branch of the folder hierarchy so that "Make Available Off-line" could collect one whole issue. This could be read anywhere on a laptop. You could include a text only (or minimal graphics) version that could be printed out.
People "navigate" paper mags differently to web sites. As well as the usual hierarchical structure each "issue" could have a navigable thread so that each page has a "next page" button akin to turning the pages of a magazine.
Anyway, the short answer is YES.
Steve
In answer to the original question - Yes
It may be the kick I need to subscribe to broadband!
Keith
Personally my answer is yes too, but practicalities are essential. I've counted 44 affirmative replies in this posting and this wont fund an online mag. There is, however another dimension- Bob and others involved with (C)VE have "donated " so much free time and experience to this forum that has no benefit to themselves. Many people posting may never have bought (C)VE but get advice none the less and freely. What most of the postings on this thread seem to want is Bobs take on developments in Video Editing- soooooo its either "Bobs on line mag" or not at all. or am I out of kilter again.
Regards
Tony Roberts
Originally posted by Flashback:
Isn't somebody there already, and in England, not the USA, oh and it's FREE!Check the next issue of Computer Video Editing magazine's classified ads section for details. Out December 22nd (ish)
Also Camcorder User and Focus and Showreel to name a few. Also on stand at Video Forum in January.
Good article on comuter video mag in dvuser.
Yes to the original question.
Ray Maher
I'm puzzled why there is no advertising on the boards - I'd have thought that if you re-jigged a bit, a combined board and an on line mag could generate decent income. I run an ultra niche site (my plug: http://www.RecordProduction.com ) and know that with the levels of traffic this board gets, it should be quite easy to make it viable and that would mean no subscriptions.
BTW, my web site wouldn't have been possible without the ideas picked up from CV. To be honest, since buying the first copy I've been buying CV less recently, mainly because I could not find any for sale :(
Good luck Bob, I think that it's just the end of a chapter!
Mike
Yes to the original question.
Tony
yes.....
yes.......
January issue was the best yet - especially for someone who does not use premier, Edition or Avid (long live Vegas!!)
Based on quality of January issue, my answer is yes
Yes, yes yes,yes.
I'll go for an on-line mag. so long as you remember that some of us do not have broadband (yet). The allusions to "certain people" escape me but I have faith in the skills and integrity of Bob, so that's what counts!
Good luck.
David Cresswell
Don't know much about online mags so my answer would have to be probably.
BobA
Absolutely, definitely YES
Guy
So that’s lots of “Yes†but how much are we willing to stump up? £20 a year feels about right; and if there isn’t an advertiser/sponsor willing to offer subscribers at least £20 worth of value in the shape of (genuine) discounts and vouchers, I’d be quite surprised.
The eulogies posted are a very impressive (and rare) sight.
Those who suggest the future is the web are right to a point, but the medium is dreadfully fickle and the folks responsible for Hexus.net are very much the exception, not the rule. The site will need to be able to earn £100k+ to make it work. And at £20 a pop, that's "only" 5000...
While mourning the loss of CV, I'd point out that Dennis Publishing did something rather more brazen last year when it edged out virtually the entire editorial team that had launched Computer Shopper and produced nigh on 180 issues.
This was a cost-cutting effort that was "promoted" as a revamp, but the staff were replaced by cheaper people from Computer Buyer (a magazine with only 30% of the readers of CS).
WSP+++
[ 21.12.2004, 06:23 PM: Message edited by: PD ]
I suspect there is another source of revenue apart from subscription.
What if you don't want to subscribe but need the the latest review on a piece of kit you are about to buy.
DVdoctor would love to drop that review into your e.mail (for a fee of course).
How many people read that review for free standing up in W.H.Smiths? (then put the mag back on the shelf).
Yes..great.. must happen
sooner the better :cool:
I am assuming that the price of the on-line subscription would be about the same as for the paper magazine. Then a resounding yes! to the question.
Ernesto17
Yes, but qualified by saying do have look at this 'business model' http://www.luminous-landscape.com example of a digital stills such site.
And the forum attached to the site is very good.
I have frequently printed off the various articles and have gotten one off the Video Journals but have baulked at the the subscription rate.
Also, and sorry if I missed any mention above if this does go ahead please keep the commercial advertising low key and not with pop ups/unders they are the bane of web browsing.
Just my 2p's worth.
I am very much in favour of an online situation.
I have been dealing with a lot of subscription sites of late and most of them favour a PDF format for downloads of information. I have to say, despite the odd grumble about PDFs, it seems to be a very usable system.
den
Yup count me in, so email me when you get it going!
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Yes!
Bob Crabtree: Give me a GO / NO GO for Launch!
Vern: It’s GO Bob!
With acknowledgement to Apollo 13.
Merry Christmas! everyone.
Yes.
Hi
Yes to the original question.
An easily downloadable PDF-version of each issue would be handy for those prefering to print and read offline (and away from a PC).
All the best for the New Year to all editors and readers (of videos and magazines that is ,
Jojo Neff
Yes to the original question. Obviously I consider it a second best to the magazine, but much, much better than no CV at all!
. . . and another YES.
Martin
Yes,but the ability to download a PDF Version for printing would be the decideing factory for me.
I also feel that advertisements would be an asset as long as they were related to our subject matter. Far to many sites encourage, or do not seem to stop people just adding links to almost anything. Would not like it if it did.
All the best, Ron.
Ron,
With the greatest of respect, you really can be a bit of a whinger at times - though this doesn't stop me from loving you dearly, of course.
Bob C
Yes
Yes - Yes - Yes. Keep in mind it is the content not the graphics that modivate me. I was always very impressed with the color and paper in the mag - but the copy was what I bought. So, keep it simple which will help you control costs. Focus on what you have always done well. Brand-independant analysis that focuses on true product measurements. I will subscribe right now based on your history. Just name the price.
Oui!
Alan (now living in France)++
Yes - let's go for it. I'd support such a venture - dunno how but I was sad to see the mag sink.
All that aside where is my March 2005 copy of CV Mag?............................
yes to original question, and also to get my first post out of the way!
The successor to CV is dismal, in the mould of Digtal Creative Arts it manages to somehow slip between almost every need. There's a large vacant lot left by withdrawing CV that could well be filled by a web journal. But when you pay a lot of money, it helps to have something tangible on the shelf for quick reference, even if it means a panic search through brain and shelf storage. If such a virtual journal was a possible gateway to another physical product it would be more appealing. I could go on ...
MichaelS
Interesting to see this thread brought alive again, but, a bit worrying that people don't seem to have realised that we are in the process of creating just such a web site - as mentioned in the original post.
It is, of course, DVdoctor.net!
Go here to check out the article's we've published.
And know that the site will have its own DVdoctor identity in the next couple of weeks.
Comments about these articles can be found here.
And there are some here too.
Bob C
Yes I Would Subscribe