lighting makes talent look very pale

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cartess3
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Question for you...

Here is a video clip i shot, this was put on a "TEST" url so I could see the final results. The lights I have make my talents look "pale white", they don't look to bad now because I fixed it (or tried too in Ultra), but what causes the talent to look so pale? What can i do it make it look more natural? After altering it, it makes the quality worse

http://www.hippomarketing.com/soc/

I made my own lights -- I used five of those energy efficient lights at 100 watts (23W Energy). I have these on 2 stands, throwing out 1,000 Watts combined...I'm using the daylight bright lights.

Are those causing them to look pale?

Also, on my own videos, I seem to have this outline that shows up on my left side, every single time when i'm using green screen. I tried moving lights everywhere, but it always show up, here is a sample:

http://www.hippomarketing.com/gettingwebsitetraffic.html

Thanks,
Carl

Cartess

Alan Roberts
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On lighting, fluorescents are rather cold, eden the little ones aimed at replacing small tungstens are at about 3,500K, and the more efficient ones are 4,300K minimum, up to 15K max. So, you're probably shooting with the wrong colour balance in the camera. If you do a manual colour balance (use a neutral grey/white card, NOT copy paper) and the colour balance and skin tones may well get better.

No comment on the green screening, I'm in a hurry right now.

Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them.
Camera settings documents are held by Daniel Browning and at the EBU
My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here.
Also EBU Tech.3335 tells how to test cameras, and R.118 tells how to use the results.

Dave R Smith
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Hi Carl,

When you say left, I assume you are the talent not the (untalented;) cameraman).
In the clip shown, the presumably cgi light top right makes the bright outline look genuine.

Firstly I think the clip looks great as it is - your having no hair makes keying easier.
I have a similar handsome hairline, so I'm allowed to say that.

Possibly the outline is created by bounced (green?) light from the screen. If a small light is used for back fill, this should counter it.

Front lighting - overhead is natural, but currently it's leaving under your chin looking dark, so front fill lower down may help.

In England, many 'web tutorials' are US made with horrible, often nasal accent.
I thought your delivery was good, interesting and engaging with no 'squirm' factor.

I did wonder though, given your topic, is your question sincere, or a means to get traffic to the linked website??

HallmarkProductions
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Dave R Smith wrote:
Hi Carl,

I did wonder though, given your topic, is your question sincere, or a means to get traffic to the linked website??

You cynic, Dave! :)

Chris
Time for a new signature now...

cartess3
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hI,

Thank you all for your help!

I never white balanced before, so I'm anxious to try it out, I just read some directions on how to white balance after reading this post, so thanks, I had no idea.

And no.....this was a sincere post, not an attempt to link to my site. I'm switched my site from standard "html" to a web video driven site and I need to get this right, thus the reason for my linking to the site, all of my videos have that "lighted" side on the left and I've been racking my brain trying to figure out how to get it off.

Also, if you look at my other posts, you'll see how "green" (new) I really am to this video. It was a sincere post from a guy who wants to get this right. I'm trying to sell "how to video" kits to small lbusinesses who are new to the net, and you guys are the pros, me trying to sell you something would be "insane" coming from a newbie like me

I'm going to reshoot the initial video over today with the man and woman, that's the main reason for the post...and they too have that light on "their" left side.

Thanks so much, now I'll go try 'white balancing'.

Carl

Dave R Smith
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cartess3 wrote:

And no.....this was a sincere post, not an attempt to link to my site. ...Carl

Ok Ok I belive you. :D

You also come across as a friendly guy, so I look forward to future chats and exchange of ideas.

simond83
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Don't forget about make-up!! It's there for a reason!