Long Movies

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Doug Clarke
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When working with a very long movie, maybe 3 hours or so, which is the best way to save sections which I am satisfied with and later join together the saved sections?

I tried exporting my project to an .AVI file but only got part of it before the 2gig limit occured.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Alan Roberts at work
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Give us a clue: PC/MAC? What editor? What tape format? What else have you got available?

Using EditDV, I can export material in chunks of 9 minutes 26 seconds of DV, and join them together in QuickTime Pro if I want one long movie. But if I want to send it all back to tape, I do it directly from the time-line in the editor, no need to generate the whole thing in one go.

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davideo0
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If you're using something like Premiere,Doug,
you can save each completed part as a separate project to hard disk. Then when you have completed all sections bring each sub project in at the appropriate place and render. Then export to tape in the normal way.

You have no problem with the 2GB limit this way.

RVS
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Just wondering? What sort of movies do you make that are over 3 hours??

Alan Roberts at work
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I wasn't going to ask that, I'm not nosy

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tom hardwick
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I've made some just under the 3 hours. Filmed lots of the rehearsals and then the whole show itself. Lay the whole lot out on the Premiere timeline, render, output to tape. What's this about limits?

tom.

chris thomas
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The 1 hour movie that I edited was scripted, so I edited each scene as a separate video project (using Media Studio Pro).

None of the completed scenes were near the 9 minute (2Gb) limit, so each was self contained, apart from a bit of overlapping music, but it was easy enough to cut the audio track, note the position, and continue it in the next scene. There was no audible blips or other problems with this process.

If you have a long project over 9 minutes, then I've used this workaround in MSP. Create a preview range (the little blue bar underneath the timeline scrub bar) starting at the beginning of the project, and stretching up to about 9 minutes. Render the preview range. Then, drag the left hand side of the preivew range, past the 9 minute mark, up to the 18 minute mark, and render that as a separate avi file. Carry on up to the end of the project.

It doesn't matter where the one preview ends, and the next begins, because no frames are repeated when the end of the first preivew becomes the beginning of the next (I tested it!).

Chris.

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Alan Roberts at work
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My spies in Digital Origin are hinting that EditDV 3 (1st Q 2001) will get around all this. So you get 4G files in Win98, and a few TerraByte files in NT, the prog will look at the OS to work out how big it can make the files. Roll on the day, my checque book awaits.

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Doug Clarke
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Alan
Yes, sorry about that. I was forgetting that there are other programs to edit movies.

I've got Pinnacle DC30+ with the PC version of Premiere 5.1 which I understood enabled files greater than 2gig.

Tom
The limit occurs when Exporting the time line to a file.

RVS
The movie is a record of a 17 day trip across Canada, mostly by train, which we took in the company of 8 other friends. The idea is to distribute copies to them all.

This is my first foray into video editing and at this time I only have Premiere.

Cris
I didn't realise that the preview bar could be wrapped around like you suggest, I had thought that cutting it into segments like tha would work but my first attempt failed to give me a viewable file. Maybe I've got the settings wrong.

Thanks for all your help and suggestions.

ddmurphy
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Doug

Some advice if thats ok with you. I have been editing my round-the world trip for some time now. I collected around 25hrs of hi8 video edit. My longest 'movie' was Australia of about 3hrs for 6 weeks travelling.... AND it was still too long! Cut, cut and cut again. I would suggest that your 17 day trip could be 1/2 hr at most. I would edit it in day segments and 'fade to black ' at the end of each edit just in case you want to tape it as you go along. To capture I use AVI_IO( free trial download from the internet) which capture seamlessly in less than 2GB files then use the Miro Instant Video 'plug in' which comes with the DC30+ and Premiere 5.1c to play back(when you press enter). DC30+ does not 'enable' files greater than 2GB it just means that it will play the files from the Premiere timeline without the necessity of 'making a movie'. So with your set up you can if you wish produce projects of up to 3hrs with no problems...however think of your audience!!

HTH

David