Panasonic WJ-MX12

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Hello,

I am looking to edit video with a Panasonic WJMX12 (or 50). My question is: can you edit pre-recorded S-VHS tapes, or only live feed? If I can only edit live feed, then how would I go about editing prerecorded video? I appreciate any help.

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Demeter

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Re: Panasonic WJ-MX12 (or 50) Editing

The unit you are proposing to use is a MIXER! It`s use is to "MIX" from a video source through it`s self to a recording or display device!

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DemeterOphelia (not verified)
Re: Panasonic WJ-MX12 (or 50) Editing

Thank you for the reply. Could I send the signal from a video cassette player into the MX12, and then output that signal into a (JVC BR-S8011U) video cassette recorder, to have the effects recorded to the tape?

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I would think so! I think the MX12 has "S-VHS" in & out, do your supply & record units have the same? If so then probably!

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Rob2882
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Re: Panasonic WJ-MX12 (or 50) Editing

I have a MX12 mixer and yes you could output from the deck to the mixer then to the video recorder but why would you want to, unless you wished to use the effects whilst recording of course

DemeterOphelia (not verified)
Re: Panasonic WJ-MX12 (or 50) Editing

I don't actually own the player, recorder, or mixer yet. I want to be sure they're all compatible first.

Can you confirm if this has S-VHS in/out, please:

DemeterOphelia (not verified)
Re: Panasonic WJ-MX12 (or 50) Editing

That's informative. Thank you!

That's actually what I want to do. Record the effects from the MX12 on to tape. Basically, I'm wanting to edit S-VHS without the use of modern software. (Not solely with the MX12, of course.)

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You can see on the rear panel S-VHS source in (2 off) & Record Video Out S-VHS (2 off) so as long as they are working OK, then yes! If you are thinking of buying this then make sure that it is fully working.

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Just a point, in you original post you mentioned "Pre-Recorded" tapes! If these were commercially produced they might be "Macrovision" encoded which might prevent the signal from your source machine being passed through, just a thought that you might want to check out!

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DemeterOphelia (not verified)
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I appreciate it. Let me specify what I meant: pre-recorded by my Panasonic AG-450.

I had read that the mixer was for live camera feed only, and that's why I asked the initial question.

DemeterOphelia (not verified)
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I appreciate it. Let me specify what I meant: pre-recorded by my Panasonic AG-450.

I had read that the mixer was for live camera feed only, and that's why I asked the initial question.

Barry Hunter
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No, it`s for either "Live" feed or any video source so there should be no problem in playing your own tapes through. I would however question why? Surely it would be much better to ingest them into an edit suite, then perform what ever effects you require & then produce i.e. a DVD!

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DemeterOphelia (not verified)
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You're correct, it would be much easier. Something just seems more interesting (which probably just coverts into 'wasted' time) to me about jogging wheels and pulling levers!

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Re: Panasonic WJ-MX12

Do not even think about spending ANY money on an SVHS linear editing system. Certainly not on one as poor as the Mx12. (it's very low resolution even on Y/C inputs) 

 

If you want jog shuttles and leavers then get something like http://retail.contourdesign.com/?/products/23 to use with your editing software.  Edit with modern software on a decent computer, its the way that professionals have edited for the last 20 years . 

 

if you want to waste a lot of time and money on obsolete hardware then don't bother with svhs it was always quite rubbish. You can get Beta SP (or even digi) gear for free these days, if you want to waste your time and money then go down that route!

You can contact me at http://tombassford.org
People interested in live production might like to check out http://atemuser.com 

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Re: Panasonic WJ-MX12

the MX series of mixers days from an earlier generation of editing than today when people went tape to tape.

the best way with that technology is still tape direct to tape.

When we used to use MX50's in our suites, back in the day, we had a bypass switch so that the MX was out of the circuit unless we wanted it in.

Te mixer is only of use in editing if you want an effect as Barry says. Something like a fade, or (not sure if the MX12 does what a 50 does) pixellation of a face/putting a circle around an object.

I don't believe that the mixer removes Macrovision, but it might, due to the TBC that is in there.

if you can get a unit to act as an A>D converter, you'd do better on an average PC or Mac edit wise.

they are useful for events or theatre where video is needed

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I seem to remember some people did use them to strip macrovision for duping but it was a long time ago, the MX50 really punished pictures but was a revelation in its day!

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Re: Panasonic WJ-MX12

smileyI know that the MX10 would ignore Macrovision!

Talking about "Copy Protection" I recently had a batch of video tapes in to transfer to DVD, one of them had a warning on saying that the tape was protected by "Copyguard" & that any attempt to copy it would result in irrepairable damage! I did a search for the company concerned before attempting to duplicate their (not very good) effort but was unable to find them, probably shuffled off to another industry to rip off punters! Needless to say, there was no damage to the said tape!

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DAVE M
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wasn't "copyguard" the system sold by "Video Action" ? Loyd, nice man....

AFAIK it was a system that needed the AGC to be tampered with on domestic VCRs that were used as dupe machines, then a box pulsed the dupe signal to set up a slightly unstable copy that played ok but was would not copy.

The whole MX series defeated macro.

I cannot see any point in using SVHS kit to edit as all that will happen is you'll degrade the copy and nobody will be able to view it.

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However, if you want to ingest S-VHS material into an edit suite you need the right kit, someone on this forum kindly gave me a Panny AG-5700 sometime back & I use this combined with a Canopus ADVC-55 to Firewire "S" material into the edit suite

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From SVHS through Sony DSR11 into Mac?  Still got my old Panny SVHS with TBC and the DSR11.