Premier 6.5 and Disk Space

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Goldeneye
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I'm currently having a bit of problem trying to free up disk space on my Hard Drive. The problem is the size of the capture files after editing weddings, using prem 6.5. Once I've produced the final DVD and given it to the client, I'll leave the project on my machine initally in case the client has any problems with the final edit and I have to tweak the edit.
Unfortunately, after a few weddings, my hard drive is near bursting capacity, and I have no choice but to delete the large capture files. Obviously I have the MPG2 authored files on disk, but, if I delete the capture files does it mean the project file is useless, or do I simply have to recapture the film so that when I load the project in premiere it can find it again?
Not sure if I've explained this very well, but would be very grateful of any help.

Z Cheema
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Save all this malarkey, fit caddies in the machine, so you can archive the files,or purchase some FW external drives and use them for storage.
Works for me. When the clients does a thumbs up you can re-use

harlequin
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if you don't have the capture files the project files are basically useless.

it may be an idea to look into purchasing a removeable cradle system and a couple of spare hard drives.

cradles will cost about 20.00 a go and a 160gb hard drive under 100.

depends upon how much you think your time is worth and the hassle the present deletion of files is causing.

Gary MacKenzie

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SIFI
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I give clients 48 hours from receipt to notify me of any changes that need to be made.

Once I have confirmed all is ok I make two digital master tapes and all the copies of DVDs and VHS tapes that are required.

Once completed, the project is deleted. If they need any further copies in future they will be from the masters.

This method has served me well and never caused me a problem. I also don't need to have ridiculously big hard drives to store several weddings.

Simon

Simon

johnxl1s
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hi sifi

you say you make digital master tapes (saved), what if the production is longer than the tape ie 2+ hours
curious,
john.

SIFI
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My videos are always longer than a standard mini DV tape.

What I do is fade to black at all the main points of the video ie just before the ceremony or just after, depending upon the timing. I also fade to black at the beginning and end of the speeches etc.

Doing this means I can output the relevant sections and make copies by joing the black fades.

I also now have a DSR-11 so I can use 3 hour DVCAM tapes which alleviates any joining problems. I still use the black fades however because I think it denotes different sections and time lapses nicely.

Simon

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Goldeneye
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Simon,

I like the idea about backing up to DV tape.
It sounds the best and cheapest option.

johnxl1s
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thanks for the reply sifi.
is the dsr 11 a good job, i was thinking of purchasing one, i take it is in/out on firewire and the other, always forget the name.
regards
john

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dsr11 is a very good machine.

1 drawback is no info display on the drive , but info can be seen on an attached monitor.

wouldn't be without our drive.

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SIFI
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Backing up to DV is very cheap because I use tapes that had original unedited footage from previous weddings, so the cost is actually nil.

The DSR11 is a very good machine. It takes full and mini size tapes in both DV and DVCAM and it does PAL and NTSC playback and recording. It also has anolgue in and out, so you could use it to record from TV if you wanted to.

The only drawbacks I find are that the full size DV and DVCAM tapes are expensive, £20 to £25 and if you have any archived LP footage it will not work. The lack of display info doesn't bother me as it is displayed on the attached TV/monitor.

It cost £1600 but it means I'll get at least an extra year out of the PD150.

Simon

Simon

branny
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We work with caddies the same as Z cheema. We archive about 30 weddings on caddies and also back up on DV masters, if there's no other copies required after 1 month, we can start capturing the next set of weddings on them. It saves having to recapture from the masters.Though I like the 48 hours for notification that Sifi uses. good idea Simon.

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Goldeneye
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Simon, I was thinking in doing exactly the
same thing with backup tapes used for weddings
it'll save money as you say.

Branny/Z cheema,
Scuse my ignorance guys, but what in the
teapot is a caddy.

branny
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Hi Goldeneye,
Caddies contain hard drives that fit in a spare PC slot. You slide a full one out and slide an empty one in.

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RayL
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Agree on the caddies (I use one per client). Another advantage of caddies is that you can use older computers for jobs such as disk burning and this frees up the main editing computers for more editing.

Thus when a job comes in and a disk + caddy is selected appropriate to the size, the routing of the caddy might be

Edit Three computer for AVI capture
Audio One for loading WAV files
Edit Four for main edit
Edit Five for DVD authoring and burning
Edit Three for playback to VHS copies and to DVHS for archive copy
Edit Two to back up stills, titles, music, project files, etc on CD

The last-named (Edit Two), for example, is an old 400MHz computer from 5 or 6 years ago, but still quite good enough for CD burning.

Most annoying feature of caddies is that with all this movement the keylocks in the bays wear out. Turning the key should rotate a metal rod that holds the caddy in place and simultaniously 'make' an electrical switch which allows power to the caddy. Lately I've been wiring out the switch as the locks fail.

Ray Liffen

busbyvideo
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I backup onto Sony DSR40p. Records in dvcam mode.
45mts on a mini dv 60, and 3 hours on full size dvcam tape.

Mike