Premiere 6 Problem

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Luke
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I am a newcomer to DV. I have just bought a Sony PC110E and Premiere 6 and am using a B&W G3/400 with 256Mb, a 6 and a 17 Gb HDs and am running Mac OS 9.1. I have a good quality firewire cable.
As a start I shot a short (4 min)test film. I had no problems in capturing and editing.
My problem is in recording back to a fresh mini DV tape in the PC110. I have tried export to tape with and without device control and also print to video(there is no entry for the PC110 in device control but PC100 seems to work)
In no case did the PC110 record the video or show on the LCD screen. It plays on the monitor OK.
I have tried striping the tape to no avail.
I have gone through these motions several times.
I would appreciate any advice.

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R Latham

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s.hood
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Luke, did you try pressing record on the cam when using print to video?

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Image F/X
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Is that camera DV I/O? if not you will have to enable it. Premiere 6 will auto start a camera or deck if it has DV in.

Regards, Lou

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Luke
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Hi Steven and Lou. Thanks for your suggestions.
Steven: Yes; in Print to Video I certainly pressed record. Incidentally when I built the preview file it did not play to the camera although it played to the monitor.
Lou: Yes; the camera has DV in/out. When I try export to tape under device control the camera runs and with "display on" the LCD shows "DV in". The counter runs and starts and stops in sync with the monitor but does not record to tape. The LCD shows a red dot which I believe means it is recording.
Regards, Luke

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s.hood
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Luke, from what I can gather - you have never seen an image appear on the LCD when playing back from the timeline. Is that correct?

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Luke
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Hi Steven. Yes that is correct. The LCD has never shown an image when playing back from the timeline. The tape counter runs, the camera stops and starts correctly under device control, the LCD shows DV in. A red dot appears which indicates recording but no image on the screen and nothing on the tape.
I am beginning to wonder whether I have got the compression codec correct. At present it sets itself to RadiusSoft.
I will experiment more over the weekend.
Regards.

R Latham

s.hood
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Luke - that will be the problem then. The Radius/Digital Origin SoftDV codec is for DigitalOrigin products and is not for use with Premier/Final Cut Pro/iMovie, which use Apple's DV codec. Disable all the Radxxx extensions in the extensions manager and restart. That should do the trick.

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Luke
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Steven. Yes that did the trick!
I disabled the 11 Radxxx extensions and set the compressor to DVPal. The preview plays back to the LCD and so does Print to Video. The tape records.
My remaining problem is that the picture on both the LCD and on the tape is slightly jagged. I have the fields set to lower field first which I thought was correct for PAL.
I will continue to experiment.
Thank you for your help.
Regards.

R Latham

Image F/X
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Hi Luke,
I screwed all my stuff up once, trying the Radius suite. It seems to load so much crap into the extensions folder.

For some reason the default in field render for UK Pal is lower field first. I found when rendering Hollywood FX transitions it blued my screen out, so I use NO FIELDS now.

Maybe Steven knows more about it.

Regards, Lou

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s.hood
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Just use the default DV PAL 48khz preset and you should have no problems.

In project settings > keyframe and rendering you can check "optimise stills" but leave everything else unchecked - the defaults. Ensure that fields is set to "lower field first"- it should be if you started the project with the DV Standard PAL 48khz preset.

You can delete all the preview files and get Premier to rebuild all the preview files.

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Luke
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Steven. Thanks. Took your advice. Print to video records back to tape but with many artefacts and pixellation, this shows on the LCD when recording and is present on the final tape.No such problems on the monitor window when recording. I checked the settings viewer and made sure all settings matched.
It is as though the camera cannot keep up with the HD.
I am experimenting more but it is taking up a lot of valuable time. I gather from another forum that P6 was not fully tested on OS 9.1
Later

R Latham

Luke
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Steven. It was simple in the end - just CPU overload on my G3/400. I switched off "play also to desktop" and the problems disappeared. I now have a clean copy on a fresh tape.
Thanks you (and Lou) for your help.
Regards.

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s.hood
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I love it when a plan comes togther!

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