SONY VX1000 MINIDV TAPE PROBLEMS

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Secondswift90
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Hello, I am new to this forum and I did some research and hopefully this is the right place to post the issue. Anyway :-

I noticed some glitching on my tapes last week and ignored it because it was an old tape. Today I captured a new tape which was used on the weekend and just as normal so I decided to capture some tapes which needed recapturing and are about 3 months old and all 3 tapes had glitches ( the normal right hand side glitch) so I checked my new tape again and it seems fine, so sony head cleaner was used ( used it twice for 30 seconds because I was taught to run it longer when the head cleaner hasnt been used for a while) Ok so I tried again and still nothing so I recorded 15seconds on one of the old tapes and everything seems fine, then I tried a tape which was captured 4 weeks ago and that also has glitches.

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It seems to be that old tapes (3 months - 2 weeks)even though they have only been used once seem to glitch and if I record on them now it seems to fine aswel and the new tape Im using now is also fine with recording and capturing. It cant be the computer because I could see the glitching through edit search. Plus I only use sony premium tapes on my cam nothing else.

johnpr98
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Re: SONY VX1000 MINIDV TAPE PROBLEMS
Sounds like your camcorder needed cleaning and it may have wrecked those older tapes
Hopefully the cleaning and the new tape will have removed the problem
Do you have a link to show the error?
Was it something like this?
 

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Secondswift90
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Re: SONY VX1000 MINIDV TAPE PROBLEMS
 Just after I posted this I thought of the huge complication about how the old lubrication could of gone onto the head cleaner............etc.

Yes my footage was similar but less, only glitches on the right hand side.

What I shall do and should of done ages ago is use another camera for primary capturing because I just checked my old NTSC vx and even though it has the famous lines across I could see improvement. So what ill do is find another cam and I shall get back too you and the forum.

Thanks and have you skatesabotage`s glitch effect? Pretty unique and awsome. Link -

See video

 
paulears
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Re: SONY VX1000 MINIDV TAPE PROBLEMS
The thing to remember with tape heads is that when they are dirty, it's a two way process, so you get a worse recording as the tape to head contact was poorer than it should have been - but, this tape could replay on a machine in good order correctly - but once you play it on a machine with some minor head wear or slightly dirty - the problem appears. Not sure where the mention of lubrication comes from?
 
If the heads are dirty, then a clean solves it. If they're worn, then new heads is the only solution. 
 
I'm intrigued by the notion that if a cleaning tapes hasn't been used for a while you double the cleaning time? Never seen this in any of the various instructions the manufacturers provide - in fact, the manufacturers advice on cleaning tapes is the ONLY advice I stick to. if they say 30 seconds, that's what I do. If it doesn't cure it - I might try one more. I have two identical cameras, and one has a lot of head hours, the other less. I always treat head cleaners as time machines - sticking on head hours in a big way.
 
In truth, once you've had this kind of problem, a real clean with solvent and care and attention is the only sensible way to proceed. Cleaning tapes are for emergency use, when a proper clean is impossible.
tom hardwick
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All the MiniDV tape head cleaners I've ever seen have said `10 seconds tops' in the instructions, and another 10 seconds if you really must but only after you've let the heads cool down a bit.
 
When you see a glitch on screen, pop out the tape, open the little flap and look at the edges of the tape itself.  The edges should appear perfect, with no damage whatsoever.  If you see any crinkles it could be that the tape tension (set up with the feed and take up spool tension adjustments) is out, and you'll need a service technician to take a look at the deck.
 
Also best to remember that a head cleaning tape is just that and no more, it does nothing for the numerous rollers, pins and guides in the tape path.  Worse, it ignores the gunk that can build up on the capstan, and this is usually where the tape damage originates.  With a bright torch and close-up specs take a look at the capstan, it should be bright and squeeky clean.
 
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Secondswift90
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Thanks people, I have the solved the problem anyway - I put in the head cleaner twice again after trying out different tapes.

Some friends of mine work in the industry and they said sometimes theyve forgot about the head cleaner tape inside and played it too long and nothing happened but what I would not do is use the head cleaner every month just when glitchy.

Nothing about lubricating but tapes do have some lubrication on them, so for example what happened to me is that I used that tape from 3 months ago and it must of had lubrication dirt on it so when I put in the next tape it transferred onto the other creating glitches and so on.

 

Thank you again

johnpr98
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Hi All
Tape lubrication used to be an issue and probably still is? mixing manufacturer's tapes isn't good practice in my view, (see my link below) saying this. it wasn't the problem in Secondswift90's case, could humidity have had a bearing on the problem, or had the tapes been left  in the camcorder for a while?
 
Here's an old post discussing Sony tape lubrication.
 

I recently digitised some old 1995 footage from a video 8 tape, this tape was definitely on it's last legs and was shedding bits of gunk causing a dirty head, I ran a head cleaner for ten seconds as recommended and managed to get a good copy, it was touch and go for a while, especially as my Digital 8 camcorder has seen better days surprise

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Paulo2515
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I have an older Sony 1080i HD camera and a Sony MiniDV camcorder and just bought a new MacBook Pro. I connected the 4 to 9 pin into a thunderbolt adapter to import into Imovie. The camera is not recognized but the miniDV camcorder is but no image can be seen although the auto command works for importing. I am pulling out my hair on this and while this project is a freebie for a friend, I am buggered if I can figure out what is wrong. Any help greatly appreciated.

Paulo

Michael-D
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Had a bit of a scare with my VX1000 yesterday it started behaving very erratically when I gave it an airing yesterday. Since I hadn't used it for quite a while, it started to do very peculiar things. It kept beeping. The tape kept threading and unthreading around the heads and the CP light on the carrying handle kept flashing on and off!
So after a lot of panicking and fiddling about. It appears that although it will record OK. It's lost its direct playback facility. The only way I can view my videos is by Firewire on iMovie, or Adobe Premiere.
Still, I suppose i'm lucky really. It is over 10 years old. And has had a lot of use, with weddings etc. I was (am still) looking forward to using it whilst out and about capturing wildlife.

tom hardwick
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VX1000 Michael - over 10 years old?  I should think so, all VX2000s are over 11 years old now, and yours was introduced in 1995.
Time you went 16:9 young man.

Michael-D
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Yep! It was a while ago. I remember I just had to get rid of the Video-8 junk I was using at the time.
Good Lord! I wasn't even 60yo when I bought it!. I note that it does have a 16:9 setting. And as I said, it does playback via Firewire.I guess we will just have to grow old disgracefully together.