Time to give up in broadcast?

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MAGLINK
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What do you broadcast guys think of this advert for a self shoot producer director using a PDW 700?
 
OK XF305 and Z1 a likes but this is a serious piece of hardware that in the right hands will produce some great pictures but I would question how many P/D's would even know how to switch it on.  
 
Maybe it is dickinsons real deal and like the x-factor they also get some of the 8 runners to do the b-camera's as well.
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Re: Time to give up in broadcast?
Gary Nattrass wrote:
What do you broadcast guys think of this advert for a self shoot producer director using a PDW 700?
 
OK XF305 and Z1 a likes but this is a serious piece of hardware ........
Depends on the producer/director......!
 
OK, that may sound a little flippant but some P/Ds are pretty good even if some aren't. For a good one a "real" camera may actually be EASIER to operate than such as an XF305. Want it to do something? Flick a switch, turn a ring - more straightforward than hunting into menus. The real reason XF305s and EX1s are popular with self shoots is far more down to a) cost and b) weight etc. It's a fallacy to think they're easier to operate well.
 
I see the main problems being more workload overload. In addition to all the production work, they've got to deal with the camerawork, the sound - and now have the physical aspect increased. It's impossible to generalise - if the work consisted of driving to (say) an interviewees house and doing a sit down interview with not much time pressure it wouldn't be too bad. Other sorts of work could be a nightmare.
 
It's interesting to see they're using PDW700s, rather than PMW500s. (XDCAM disc rather than solid state.) At least that takes away the media management side of the workload from them - well, except for writing title etc on the disc!
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Re: Time to give up in broadcast?
infocus2 wrote:
 
Depends on the producer/director......!
 
OK, that may sound a little flippant but some P/Ds are pretty good even if some aren't. For a good one a "real" camera may actually be EASIER to operate than such as an XF305. Want it to do something? Flick a switch, turn a ring - more straightforward than hunting into menus. The real reason XF305s and EX1s are popular with self shoots is far more down to a) cost and b) weight etc. It's a fallacy to think they're easier to operate well.
 
Don't forget that many P/Ds are ex cameramen.
 
"a real camera may actually be easier"
 I had an example of this yesterday.
 
I'm just about to leave on a months shoot filming "COAST" for NHK in Japan. The crew are coming from Japan with two PDW 700s and I was contracted to work as a cameraman and supply my own Z1. There will be a Japanese cameraman and the Director will operate, what I thought would be my Z1 and I would operate the 2nd 700. I was wrong. The director wants to operate the PDW 700 as he cannot cope with the menus in the Z1.
Strange that you should post this the very next day infocus!
 
FreeFlow
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Re: Time to give up in broadcast?
Looks like the ad is for the Antiques Roadtrip or somethig similar. The oddest aspect I find in that advert is that the P/D needs to be able to direct a team of people. If there is no sound person or AC etc, who or what does the team consist of? And if there is a team, why are none of them easing the load of the P/D?
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Re: Time to give up in broadcast?
infocus2 wrote:
Depends on the producer/director......!
 
Quite.
 
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The real reason XF305s and EX1s are popular with self shoots is far more down to a) cost and b) weight etc. It's a fallacy to think they're easier to operate well.
 
I remember one production assistant telling me how he much preferred operating a DSR-500 over the PD-150 simply because it was easier to use. That was my own experience too when operating a DSR for the first time (and one of the delights of the EX1 that it has enough physical buttons). Heck, I know Producer/Directors that can rig a  multicam setup using CCU-M3s and DXC-D35WSPs.
 
As I said elsewhere it shouldn't matter who is operating the camera providing the images are artistically and technically good... There are times when proper cameramen and DoPs are needed (even essential) and times when a P/D can shoot stuff on their own.
 
If we start defining who can and can't do what job, we'll end up back at the Play School clock disputes of the 70s...
 
Steve