top gear!

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stoo
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I was wondering how I can make my footage look like top gear. I'm assuming there shooting in progressive scan and there using a matt box with extreme filters?
or is this done in post?

tom hardwick
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You can start by shooting everything with a 1/1000th sec shutter speed in progressive scan, adding a tobacco grad and vignetting the corners.

Michael.Bradshaw
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what does the high shutter speed do?

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Alan Roberts
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Give you very sharp frames and extremely nasty motion judder. It's one of the many reasons why I refuse to watch Top Gear.

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Barry Hunter
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Oh come Alan, it`s worth watch JUST because of the Politically Incorrect Clarkson! :-)

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Like I said, one of the many reasons..... :)

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tom hardwick
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Higher shutter speeds don't sharpen anything, they simply help reduce image subject blur (caused by camera and subject movement) just as in still photography. In a movie they give the staccato look so beloved by Spielberg (Band of Brothers, Private Ryan, Minority Report).

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That's what I meant, reduction of exposure duration reduces motion blur and emphasises most of what's not nice.

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tom hardwick
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And in a sense you are right Alan - shortening the open shutter duration can force open the aperture and keep you well away from diffraction losses, so it does indeed sharpen the image.

Claire
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I thoroughly enjoy Top Gear! No interest in cars, just great fun to watch the big little boys playing their whacky car games and the whacky camera work which I really like!!

It's C_O_O_L!!!!!!!!!!!!

Claire

Rob James
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Me too! I love cars, but that really isn't the point of Top Gear. This is the interplay between three men playing at being 'blokes' and all the tensions therein.

Rob The picture is only there to keep the sound in sync

Gavin Gration
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stoo wrote:
I was wondering how I can make my footage look like top gear. I'm assuming there shooting in progressive scan and there using a matt box with extreme filters?
or is this done in post?

First job is to find a racing circuit. Then you need someone willing to lend you a Bugatti Veyron (or two), a couple of 911s and an old Toyota pick-up truck to play with........plus an F1 driver and three modern day Stooges to front the thing.

:) I do like the funky camera work, super saturation and the fag grads - Even the repeats on Dave still make me drool. And I read Clarkson's books but ONLY in Travelodges!

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Gavin Gration wrote:
Even the repeats on Dave still make me drool.

I'm pleased you enjoy my Sky channel Gavin.;)
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stoo
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I new about the shutter speed, it was the look as in the colours, and the sky I was interested in.
I'm assuming its done using a mat box? I've looked at them before but they seemed really watered down in comparison! so I was thinking perhaps there was some post work done on them?

Alan I have a question for you which is separate to this...
I use a Sony z1 at the moment I'm using it in dv , this is due to the edit system we use. I've looked at progressive scan on several cameras and I'm not a fan I think it looks awful but most people I speak to seem to prefer it. I might be about to make my self look stupid, but is this something I'm doing wrong? if it isn't why is the trend going towards this look? apart form optimizing for the web what is the actually advantage of this mode?

I do like the look when used on the race course on top gear but for any thing else I'm not that keen. this post was originally to find out how the sky's and colours where achieved.

Nigel Longman
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Stoo

I have a matte box but the only filters I have for it are a polarizer and a graduated ND filter. Both of these filters create effects that as far as I'm aware can't be replicated in post (eg reducing unwanted reflections and preventing burnt-out skies). I believe most other filter effects can be recreated in post, the advantage being that original footage has not been modified by a filter which might later be considered as inappropriate.

Regards NL

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Stoo, the Z1 is poor at progressive because it's an interlaced camera. It drops alternate fields and interpolates lines to make the progressive output.

People are supposed to see the jerky motion as an indication that the programme has been made to a higher standard, because it;s aping some of the aspects of film but without spending the money. You might want to take a look at my R&D papers on this http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp008.shtml and http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp053.shtml. They're not difficult reading, but should show you what I'm talking about.

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stoo
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thanks for the links

Christian Lett
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Hey Stoo,

Best never to shoot with coloured grad filters these days (neutral density grads are ok though), because it limits you in post to what you shot. I can wholeheartedly recommend Magic Bullet Looks, which is an awesome post-production look application that will work in After Effects and Premiere Pro (provided you have a decent graphics card). You'll be able to create any look you want. If it's not one of the many supplied presets, either tweak one of them or start from scratch.

Shoot neutral and create your look during post-production, for consistency and maximum flexibility.

Christian

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Alan Roberts
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There's a also a spectacularly nice Tiffen filter simulator, as a stand-alone package or as a plugin for Pemiere. It simulates all the existing Tiffen range, and you can roll up filters together; should you find a combination you like, Tiffen can produce a real filetr to the=at specification. Costs around £100 IIRC.

Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them.
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