V.Fast Zoooming iNto your MiNd!!!!

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DVillan
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HEy

I want to acheive the following shot-

Long shot of character.

V.fast zoom into eye of character and into their mind.

any ideas?

DV

Unicorn
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One option might be to get the actor to stay still, do a zoom on a camera which supports very slow (< 1/50) shutter speeds, and then speed that up. For example, I believe the TRV900 goes down to 1/4 of a second and does that by recording six identical frames at a time, so you could potentially throw away five out of every six frames and get a much faster looking zoom; you could just use a normal shutter speed, but that will look wrong when you speed it up because there won't be enough motion blur. Actually, I might try that tonight just to see what it looks like.

The mind would be harder, since I presume you don't have enough budget to do it the way David Fincher did for 'Fight Club'!

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Unicorn
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Yeah, I just tried that and it works.

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Rookie
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quote:Originally posted by Unicorn:
...but that will look wrong when you speed it up because there won't be enough motion blur.


...and right you are of course.

In Premiere (at least). You could get quite an interesting effect by adding a "radial-blur" filter to the shot.

Christian Lett
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I've been thinking about something similar but it involves moving the camera rather than zooming (and probably a lot more work) but it might look better...

Starting with your big close-up of the eye, shoot a couple of frames and then move the camera back a pre-determined distance. Continue doing this until you're at your long shot. You'll have to use a tripod to keep the camera level and maybe use some kind of marker on your viewscreen to keep the centre-of-attention in the same place.

Capture each shot and cut one frame from each, in reverse order, to form one fluid (and very fast) "dolly" shot. Using the radial zoom filter will add a bit of the required motion blur.

Don't know if this works yet nut if you give it a go I'd be interested in seeing the end result

Christian.

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DVillan
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exellente!

the motion blur is not teriibly important- i want a kind of jerky, raw look- but i like that idea, christian. I think i'll give it a shot without the radial blur.

in fact that remnds me of a film i saw on channel 4 during the japanese season. it was a sci-fi affair about a monster that turned stuff into metal and it was mostly done with stop motion-type shots. i dunno what it was called but i really liked the look of that. cheers everyone for your help.

DV

vega1970
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I remember that Movie,
'Tetsuo' it was called...they laso did a sequel..I have them on video...somewhere...?

So long Suckas !!!