I have a 3 min video clip I want to put on a web site what’s the recommended format/settings.?
I was planning to use quick time.
I was wondering what other people use or would advise?
Thanks
I have set up a couple of 5 minute video streams using realplayer
try http://194.35.199.137/streaming/skye.rmvb or
http://194.35.199.137/streaming/finland.rmvb
may need adsl or better for this to be a true streaming file
ONLY LIVE FROM 9.00am TO 5.00pm , IT RUNS ON MY WORK PC , NOT A LIVE SERVER.
arrrgah this means I need to install the evil real player....
sorry , if you give me a couple of minutes i can organise a quicktime file , i just need to check it is still live.
http://194.35.199.137/streaming/old/orkney2.mov
may not stream properly
working on another that will be a true streamer in about 10 minutes
Ok right I think I might be a bit confused hear...
I would like to put a 3 min vid on a web site. I thort I had to up load it to my server so people could download it?
I also thort streaming servers where expensive?
So and this may seem stupid could I stream from my actual computer? If so how would I do this?
yes , from a true streaming server.
yes , not cheap
yes , i do , i run apache server on my pc , and then store files in a directory , and tell people the ip address and hopefully the files stream ...........
works within our wan , no problems , you were first external guinea pig.
Right
How much dose the apache software cost (or other soft wear to do this?) and how hard is it to use?.. I have minimal web building kollage.
Well at least you no it works with outsiders now!!
apache costs nothing http://www.apache.org/ & http://httpd.apache.org/
easy to use , just follow instructions
if you get stuck ...... ask
Hi
If you (or others) find configuring Apache isn't your thing, then QuickTime will easily allow 'progressive downloads' from any normal ISP's server - playback starts as soon as the first bit of the movie is downloaded.
To find out about encoding QT for the web read the QuickTime articles in the reference section of the first CVE DVDs, or go to www.apple.com/uk/quicktime and check out the extensive Tools & Tips pages - there's a ton of stuff on the web site, including how to embed html and active-X movie links into a web page.
You need the pay-for QuickTime Pro version to do this.
thanks for the info gary Ill be checking it out tonight, I dont no much about web stuff but If I run apache dose that mean my computer will act as a server as in I can allow people to access my computer from the internet? Im sorry if that seems like a really stupid question..
paul thanks for the info Ive had a look and ill begoing back to lean about embedding and active-x.
Apache, PHP, MySQL, Perl go hand in hand, they are open source and Free, but beware, if you are not web savvy, these will really confuse you.
Forget Real player, QuickTime gives superior quality results and is more user friendly, it would appear that QuickTime is the industry standard web player by those in the know, also, QuickTime is installed on all new PC's and Macs, unlike the others.
The BBC are archiving all there footage from yesteryear into the QuickTime format for people to download (PAL 720x576) over the next couple of years.
As for QuickTime settings, I use the following:
Size 320x240 (smaller standard size is 240x180)
Key frame every 250 (this is UK PAL standard, don't use anything else here).
Turn "Limit data rate" Off and leave it off always, you can't create web movies with the dial-up 56K brigade in mind these days, sorry, but those guys have to be ignored otherwise the quality by setting data rates is simply diabolical. I have been told this by several pro web designers, the trend is now going towards producing sites for broadband users, a shame, but that is just the way it's going, more and more people are now on broadband. Similarly, site designers are now designing sites for the 17" with 1024x768 minimum (CRT) screen and not the old 14" screen with 800x600 res. Only sites that were designed years ago are based on this, newer sites are not. The BBC and Apple are going to have to totally redo their sites soon though as I don't know anyone with a 14-inch CRT anymore...
Audio compression: either QDesign or IMA4.1
Mono and 16 bit at 32 KHz (32 or 11 doesn't make any real difference to file size).
Filters: HSL Balance, move "Lightness" up to 108 as web is different to broadcast, it needs lightning slightly with this codec.
Remember that on average dial up takes 3 minutes (sometimes much longer) to download 1 MB.
If you use the above settings you will get a 3 minute movie in under 5 MB.
For broadband users, this will be instant, for dial up they will have to wait 5 minutes before anything happens.
Hope this helps.
thanks for the info gary Ill be checking it out tonight, I dont no much about web stuff but If I run apache dose that mean my computer will act as a server as in I can allow people to access my computer from the internet? Im sorry if that seems like a really stupid question..paul thanks for the info Ive had a look and ill begoing back to lean about embedding and active-x.
yes it does.
i set mine up as a purely HTTP server , so people can read files etc , but cannot upload to it.
i have a seperate program called cerberus as an ftp server.
It would appear that Gary's answer above is aimed at the last post by stoo.
Two people posting pretty much at the same time in this instance ;)
Originally posted by Flashback:
As for QuickTime settings, I use the following:Size 320x240 (smaller standard size is 240x180)
Key frame every 250 (this is UK PAL standard, don't use anything else here)....
Hi
The vital bit of info missing from this good post is the video codec you are using.
QT version 6+ defaults to MPEG-4. This is fine, but better results can sometimes be achieved with Sorenson Video 3 (with no keyframes set).
For professional encoding its better to use the pay-for Pro upgrade to Sorenson 3 which certainly gives better results - once you've read the manual and understood the parameter settings.
Sorenson 3 Pro is even more controllable using Cleaner to enable multi-pass VBR encoding.
Sorry about that "Sorenson 3" in QuickTime Pro.
How could I forget that part? duhhh
For the record I have tried many time with MPEG4 and found the file size difference to be very little indeed, also the quality of MPEG4 has always proved to be worse than Sorenson, but that could be just the way I'm using it.
If you dont like Real Player, you can use Real Alternative.
thanks for the link to the real alternative...
I havent had time to look at the apachee stuff yet but am hoping to to night
hello
how do I actull download the apache sever?
I dont seem to be able to find the keys?
hi I seem to have done it
however Im now stuck with a new problem..
what do I put for the following at the install
network domain
sever name
thanks
at work where i have authority to run apache server i used the full address
so network domain = uhi.**.uk
server name as = avtech
which gave ( cos the server is at home with me at the moment ) avtech.uhi.**.uk
this allowed people to access using that address or using 194.3*.199.13*
hello
thanks for the reply gary but I dont get what Imment to put...
my computer is at home and Im the only person that uses it so do I put my isp name? or the name of the web space they give me? or what ever name I want?
as for sever name do I make this up?
I no these questions seem really stupid but I dont no where to find this out
(if this helps Im running xp home)
thnaks
1. no question is stupid if you don't know the answer
2. server name is whatever you want.
3. if they already give you webspace you don't want your server to have the same name
call both things whatever you want , then when finished installing open the file called httpd.conf in C:\Program Files\Apache Group\Apache2\conf
in there you will see a line similar to this
# If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address here.
# You will have to access it by its address anyway, and this will make
# redirections work in a sensible way.
#
ServerName vaio.***.ac.uk:80
what i would do , if running the server at home is
change above info into
ServerName 83.104.61.96:80
that is my home ip address and port 80
if you are lucky and try typing 83.104.61.96 into the address bar in internet explorer you may be able to access pages running here at home.
i'll alter the above info tomorrow to hide info.
hi gary
I dident see this post last night but Im hear now...
Ill be trying this out as soon as Ive resized the images from the other problem I had!!
I typed the ip number in the address bar but nothing happend!
any way Ill be installing later today so Ill proberly be posting!
thanks again for your help!