What cameras is everyone using these days?

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Jenp
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I stopped doing weddings over 2 years ago now. I used Z1s when I did them but I'm guessing they're now out of date!

Very curious to know what everyone is using these days!

Barry Hunter
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Sony Z7`s, S270, HXR-MC50e, JVC HV30! Oh yes & a Flip HD :-)

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MAGLINK
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Don't do weddings but have had my panasonic P2 HPX301 for over two and a half years now, also have an HPX371 and hire in HPX3700's if needed although as the HPX371 is BBC approved this tends to be less and less.

I really like the P2 system and having gone thru the V1>Z7>S270 route I find it suits all my needs for SD and HD shooting in PAL/NTSC.

The new HPX251 looks like it will be an ideal high end wedding camera as is the canon XF305 but with full BBC broadcast facilities if you wish to do doco's as well.

Jenp
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All these cameras are new to me! I do broadcast stuff so I need to find out what the programmes I usually work on are using!

Mintyslippers
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5DMK2 and 7D.

Jenp
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As in the Canon digital SLRs ? But used as a video camera?
How do you get on with that? I was experimenting last week with a friend's one using it as a stills camera and I LOVED it! It isn't accepted for broadcast I don't think as an HD camera! How do you find it? What about sound?

MAGLINK
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For your info Jen the BBC approved HD camera list is here: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/site/BBC_Approved_HD_Cameras.pdf

Most indies seem to be using the canon XF305 as the Z7 HD equivalent these days and I suspect once Alan has tested it the panasonic HPX251 will be added as well.

Jenp
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That's handy to see - thank you. I want to stick to what productions I work on use though so I'm not switching from one to another all the time!

Mintyslippers
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We are all SLR. Been so for about a year now, maybe 18 months.

We love it, it has its challenges and sound being one of them. All key parts like the ceremony and speeches are handles by a Zoom H4N but in a way its better. The quality it gives us is amazing.

This does mean though that we have to sync everything up but it forced us to start plugging into soundboards to get the handheld mic feed (where we couldnt tune into it ourselves).

The reason we went was we just liked the look. Plus, dont you hate how you pull out your camera, even a Z5 or Z1 and everyone goes quiet, turns their back. Not with a DSLR. They have no idea there being filmed, even with a tripod and a mic on top so you get a lot more natural footage. Plus, people are just more comfortable in front of a DSLR.

Biggest plus, as they dont know there being filmed we no longer get the "Hello mum" type pose and waving to camera.

Jenp
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I wondered if people would think they weren't proper video cameras!
You know how when video cameras became smaller ... well, sometimes people equate bigger as better. I was filming at a couple of weddings where they'd hired 2 videographers for the event for various reasons. I had Z1s filming 16:9 in HDV. The other videographers had huge but ancient cameras filming SD in 4:3. The guests seemed to think that they were the "proper" videographers and I was some bumbling amateur! I don't think being female helped either.
Do you never have those issues? How do you get the client to know they are proper cameras?
I have a Marantz that is similar to a Zoom so I have that already. And I would LOVE a Canon 5D or 7D so I could get a lovely big lens for it and go and indulge my hobby of wildlife photography!

Mintyslippers
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We dont win clients over with our claims of using broadcast cameras, we show them the work and they dont care if we said we filmed it on a Flip or a Red. They want the results. You will notice that we dont say anywhere on our website what cameras we use.

The guy with the big camera you mention, I bet that people either tried to avoid the guy or acted up to camera.

The question of cameras never comes up, people honestly dont give a monkeys. We tell them so there are no shocks and often the grooms, who are apprehensive like the idea of something smaller.

The downside of DSLR's is you end up spending a small fortune on lenses and all the other gear that is needed. We have several lenses which cost more than the cameras.

Jenp
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Yes, but the lenses are lovely aren't they?!! I spent all last week with a photographer out on the same job. He had Canons and lovely lenses to go with them and in the evenings I kept borrowing his camera and testing the lenses out on local birds. We were abroad so there were species we don't get here at all! It was great fun and the results were better than with my digital SLR. So it just made me think I'd like one and obviously if I could earn some cash with it, then all the better.

tom hardwick
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Jenp wrote:
I used Z1s when I did them but I'm guessing they're now out of date!
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Out of date? If you ask me the Z1 is a pretty much ideal wedding camera. Have you still got them? It's only 4:3 SD cameras that have gone out of date - and the fact that shooting styles have gradually changed.

The Z1 is a simply wonderful run 'n' gun camera. Small, light, maneuverable, reliable. Proper mics plug straight in. Fine tune of the w/b as you run, a screen you can use in bright sunlight, CCDs so no nasty wobble and half-exposed flash frames. It's a real 'get it on the first shot' type of camera and has earned its success.

tom.

BLD
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5DMK2's and a Canon XHA1S as a back up for the ceremony and speeches.

Mintyslippers
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I agree with Tom, the Z1 is still a valid camera. We recently sold our FX1's and got more for them than we paid as people still want them, if nothing else to camera match their existing gear. In the right hands it can wield some amazing results.

Lovely lenses indeed. Just bear in mind many photographers love their 24-105 at f4.0 but for video 4.0 is too slow. Togs can use flash and unless your into using lights f4 will be too dark. It also looses you that lovely shallow Dof we use DSLR's for.

Jenp
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Still got my Z1s. still love them. Me and my favourite Z1 were in Uganda last week and we had a wonderful time!

MAGLINK
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I also agree with Tom that the Z1 is still a valid camera for the wedding market as CCD's and the tape side of things can be an advantage.

I still have an old nikon CCD D1x and I prefer the pictures is takes over my mega pixel cmos D300, it just looks better to me!