What is everyone using to print DVDs

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David Garcia
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Hi,

I need to update my DVD printing machine and was wondering what you are all using.

I don't need a multiple DVD printing mechanism although I would like a laminator of some kind to protect the DVDs face unless the ink looks good without one.

Any advice?

Thanks in advance :)

Mark M
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Canon ip4850 and TY Watershield disks. Never felt the need for laminator, and I'm pretty fastidious about the look of my DVDs.

NB I am using a colour calibrated workflow to ensure that the onscreen colours match the output from both laser printer (DVD inserts) and the ip4850. Hate it when the DVD face and the DVD cover are supposed to be a colour match but aren't.

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David Garcia
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Thanks, sounds like a good option to consider. I do also use the TY DVDs

Cheers

Lusky
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I'm using the canon pima MG6150 scanner, printer the lot. only issue seems to be difficulty in getting the grey cartridge but great printer

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Arthur.S
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How do you laminate a disc? :confused:

At the moment, I spray the discs with a 'fixitive' which also gives them a nice gloss. Tried TY watershields a couple of years back, but had problems. Probably the only guy in the world to do so. :rolleyes: But...once bitten twice shy.

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Arthur.S wrote:
....Tried TY watershields a couple of years back, but had problems....

:confused: :confused:

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We too used to use the fixiing spray but no matter what we did some of the spray would get onto the other side and it resulted in parts of the disk failing to burn. Which is a shame as we loved the look and the protection it gave the disks.

We tried the TY disk but found them to scratch a little too easy. So now we are flicking between the following 2 from River Pro.

Their Aqua shield disks are amazingly waterproof. They pass the run under the tap test and are the most scratch resistant I have found. The downside is the black ink from our R800 never seems to adhere to the disks, even after 5 days of letting them dry. all other inks are fine but black simply rubs off. This is official epson ink too. But, any design without solid black works well and has a nice glossy finish.
http://riverproaudio.co.uk/Itemdesc.asp?ic=MBIPDVMAQ045&eq=&Tp=

The other ones from them were currently favouring are their own brand photo gloss. Not waterproof but pretty scratch proof. The finish is more of a glossy matt look with a really nice texture. The disks take a little longer to dry (about 10 minutes). The matt finish actually looks and feels more like a litho printed commercial disk. They also offer blu-ray with the same finish.
http://riverproaudio.co.uk/Itemdesc.asp?ic=5060158312832&eq=&Tp=

Both disks burn fine first time and have had zero compatibility problems with players.

BTW, anyone tried the new TY disks? I see they now have a Watershield 2 disk but I have seen a few web posts which say the finish is of a lower quality.

Barry Hunter
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Another way is to use a HiTi Dye Sub printer with glossy stick-on labels! Fiddly but gives an excellent result.

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I stay clear of Stick on labels...always had issues!! i now print on a Epson R285 - using TY Watershield disks.

Mintyslippers, might look into those disks though as they are much cheaper!!

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Can`t really disagree, but.... these are Very light glossy ones, not like the original stick-ons!

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I stay clear of Stick on labels...always had issues!! i now print on a Epson R285 - using TY Watershield disks.

Mintyslippers, might look into those disks though as they are much cheaper!!

Same here epson r285 or px650 with TY grade 1 DVDs with watershield never had a problem and they turn out great - no need for messy spray fixatives.
Cheapers DVDs are not an alternative - When it comes to the final products for the client.

Mintyslippers
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But in this case I found the cheaper ones to offer a superior finish and better scratch resistance.

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yes, if the cheaper disks are as as good as others...i will be using them. i can get 100 of them for the price of 50 of my current disks.

David Garcia
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You guys should try these
JVC DVD-R 16x InkJet Printable (VD-R47HPS25)

They are Tayo Yuden as JVC now owns them and the quality of the print is good.

I too have an Epson R but would like something newer so I might go for one of the Canon ones.

In terms of lamination

Arthur.S
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still waiting for a reply re "lamination". Or was that just a mis-quote? :confused:

David Garcia
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haha! no it wasn't a mistake. I saw it at the BVE.

It basically gives your already printed DVD a 'plastic/laminated' feel and ensures the ink sticks longer besides feeling really good in your hand.

However, I think it was close to £1000 and was wondering if anyone was using something similar.

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£1000!!!

The cost of having professionally made, litho printed disks is actually quite cheap.

Litho printing is one method the big studios use for disk printing, mainly when it involves photographic reproduction. The other method they tend to use are screen printing for the more basic designs.

Its about £300-500 for 500 disks but this is obviously if you use the same design, no good if you print your own but the quality of the finish is the best you can get.

Its about finding a happy medium, quality you can live with at a price you can afford. For me having something scratch resistant was more important than being water proof. More chance of it getting scuffed than run under a tap and luckily for me the hard wearing disks we found were waterproof enough to withstand a sweaty hand (but they failed the lick test).

David Garcia
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I agree £1000 is too much that's why I was wondering if anyone had another solution.
What are you printing with Minty?

I might give your discs a try as my current ones do scratch quite easily

Mintyslippers
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Epson R800. As I said, the watershield disks are great except the R800 black doesnt stick and rubs off. Its most bizzare but the RiverPro own brand photo disks are great even though not waterproof.

I like the quality of the R800 but hate how it wastes ink. Everytime you power on or do anything it decides its going to squirt a little ink and just check its happy. We never print anything using the gloss optimizer but some how manage to always run out. So printing large runs its quite good but power off, print a new client the next day and your wasting a crap load more ink.

Advantage is each colour (and there are 8 of them or something like that) comes in its own cart, so you dont throw away a whole cartridge just because one colour has run out. It also has 2 blacks, matt and gloss. I think its the matt blacks which dont adhere to the disks.

David Garcia
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Yes, I use the R300, the earlier model and its amazing how much ink it wastes. However Ive never had any problem with the ink not sticking even with the generic inks you can find on eBay

Thanks for that

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When my old R300 eventually died I replaced it with the Epson Photo P50 which, so far, seems to be pretty good and the disk software is backward compatible with my old Epson files - though it doesn't particularly like 200gm paper.

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